edgarblythe
 
  1  
Tue 9 Nov, 2010 06:42 am
@Setanta,
Oh, you assume my response was just at spendi. I have him on ignore and don't need to peek to see what he types (as opposed to saying anything).
spendius
 
  1  
Tue 9 Nov, 2010 07:28 am
@edgarblythe,
I can understand that. They can't explain art under the atheist dispensation. They can't read the texts which are concerned with the matter.

Check out communist art. See the number of artists persecuted under atheist regimes.
Setanta
 
  1  
Tue 9 Nov, 2010 07:30 am
@edgarblythe,
I'm glad to hear that EB, and do forgive my assumption. I get very frustrated when the thread gets spammed like that, and one is obliged to go through pages of bullshit to find something worth reading.

Again, my apology.
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Ionus
 
  1  
Tue 9 Nov, 2010 07:35 am
@spendius,
These clowns apart from kiss-arsing each other dont realise the slight difficulties involved in proving a negative. It takes more leaps of faith to believe there is NO God then it does to believe there is one. Atheism is by its very nature more demanding in faith.
spendius
 
  1  
Tue 9 Nov, 2010 08:08 am
@Ionus,
It seems to get its adherents a bit uptight.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 9 Nov, 2010 10:58 am
@Ionus,
Of coarse it does! That's the reason why you people use circular arguments that can't be proved there is a god.
georgeob1
 
  1  
Tue 9 Nov, 2010 11:29 am
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:

These clowns apart from kiss-arsing each other dont realise the slight difficulties involved in proving a negative. It takes more leaps of faith to believe there is NO God then it does to believe there is one. Atheism is by its very nature more demanding in faith.


Not demanding in terms of difficulty: merely in the blind credulity it requires.
Francis
 
  1  
Tue 9 Nov, 2010 11:31 am
@georgeob1,
Another unsupported statement, ahem, George?
edgarblythe
 
  0  
Tue 9 Nov, 2010 12:39 pm
Atheists don't have a burden of proof against unfounded assertions.
spendius
 
  1  
Tue 9 Nov, 2010 12:45 pm
@georgeob1,
Once again George Laurence Sterne offers a plausible explanation.

Quote:
In this case, continued my father, which Plato, I am persuaded, never
thought of ---- Love, you see, is not so much a SENTIMENT as a SITUATION, into which a man enters, as my brother Toby would do, into a corps ---- no matter whether he loves the service or no ---- being once in it -- he acts as if he did ; and takes every step to shew himself a man of prowesse.


Like being in Love, and being much else also, atheism is a situation. It is not a sentiment. One might enter the situation when young for a number of reasons and once in it pride does the rest. Take the happily married man as a good example. He needs to maintain how happy he is because otherwise he has to admit having made a ghastly error. Which means he is a mug. And that is not going to happen when they have such a high opinion of themselves.

The "blind credulity" is the early stage. Pride does the rest.

Basically, the insistence is a measure of the insecurity. It's himself he is trying to convince. He's no hope of convincing me. So he must like banging his head against walls as well.

Francis
 
  2  
Tue 9 Nov, 2010 12:56 pm
@spendius,
Spendi wrote:
Basically, the insistence is a measure of the insecurity


What a lovely argument one can do with this sentence!

Do you see all the implications of this, don't you?
Setanta
 
  1  
Tue 9 Nov, 2010 03:44 pm
@georgeob1,
Jesus wept, O'George . . . you claim to have been educated by Jesuits ? ! ? ! ? The condition of an atheist is not one of a belief, it is the refusal to accept a belief. There are no leaps of faith involved, because it is the rejection of any leap of faith. You really have to have twisted your mind into a pretzel to have come up with that ****.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 9 Nov, 2010 04:21 pm
@Setanta,
Set wrote:
Quote:
..twisted your mind into a pretzel..


Love it! Can I borrow it?
spendius
 
  0  
Tue 9 Nov, 2010 04:24 pm
@Francis,
Quote:
Do you see all the implications of this, don't you?


Of course I do. Beauty treatments are based on it.

I'm not insisting upon anything. I'm fighting for the freedoms which our culture has delivered for us which I think the widespread acceptance of atheism would take away. Or which another religion would take away.

I'm not trying to convert anybody. I don't see why atheists are trying to convert people. I cherish our heritage and I'm not up for any dramatic changes. What I think is immaterial.
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Setanta
 
  1  
Tue 9 Nov, 2010 04:24 pm
Knock yourself out, Boss.
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Ionus
 
  1  
Tue 9 Nov, 2010 04:46 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Of coarse it does! That's the reason why you people use circular arguments that can't be proved there is a god.
I take it you know nothing of proving a negative by the way you associate it with proving a positive. What do you mean "you people" ?
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Ionus
 
  0  
Tue 9 Nov, 2010 04:50 pm
@Setanta,
My old friend **** for brains.....do you understand the difference between Atheism, Agnostic and Theism ? You describe Agnostic beliefs whilst insisting it is Atheistic beliefs. But you never were very good at this sort of thing were you ?
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Ionus
 
  0  
Tue 9 Nov, 2010 04:52 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Love it! Can I borrow it?
Of course not ! It is the closest thing to wit he will ever steal from someone else and you want to steal it from him ? Atheists - no morals at all. Hump a dog if evolution says it is OK.
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Ionus
 
  1  
Tue 9 Nov, 2010 04:55 pm
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
Atheists don't have a burden of proof against unfounded assertions.
?????Bewildering. Have you never read any of these threads ? Atheists are always proving there is no God, usually at the same time as sneering to the point of permanent facial deformity. They insist no-one else believes. Look up the definition of Atheist, Mister Ed...you will be unpleasantly surprised.
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spendius
 
  0  
Tue 9 Nov, 2010 05:40 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Love it! Can I borrow it?


I wouldn't if I was you ci. It would make you look as thick as Setanta. A walnut is better.
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