spendius
 
  1  
Sun 31 Oct, 2010 11:14 am
@reasoning logic,
The dark glasses are a lie. A senior detective told me many years ago not to trust anyone wearing dark glasses for no reason.

In the other case it is ridiculous to assume that if there were no cases of priests behaving in a criminal fashion the Church's teachings would suddenly appear in a golden light of enlightenment.

Why should I deal with the matter when the secular authorities approved and spent money, time and effort on the Pope's visit. Take it up with them.
reasoning logic
 
  0  
Sun 31 Oct, 2010 11:22 am
@spendius,
It sure would be nice to hear your view points on the subject matter that was spoken about in the video. You seem to be open minded at times, Can you be on this video?
spendius
 
  1  
Sun 31 Oct, 2010 12:27 pm
@reasoning logic,
My views on these matters are all along the evolution threads. In some detail, at great length and under fire.
reasoning logic
 
  0  
Sun 31 Oct, 2010 12:49 pm
@spendius,
I see that you may have a greater interest in evolution but this is a different subject, not to mention this would be alot easy for you to prove true of false than evolution, as evolution seems to still be a science in it's infancy.
spendius
 
  1  
Sun 31 Oct, 2010 02:21 pm
@reasoning logic,
What point/s do you want clearing up rl?

I've watched Dawkins on many occasions. Is there something new?
julianhuxley
 
  -2  
Sun 31 Oct, 2010 02:42 pm
men that wear high heels in airports shouldnt vote.
NoOne phil
 
  1  
Sun 31 Oct, 2010 03:05 pm
@littlek,
littlek wrote:

I know there are other threads about atheism, but they tend to be focused somewhat specifically to some argument or subtopic. I'd like this thread to be open for constructive conversation, sharing of ideas and resources, etc.

One big issue that some friends and I feel is weird is that religious people seem to feel that we are persecuting them. I can't see how that could be given that we represent such a small minority of any population. If anything, it is we who are persecuted.


I am not religious, nor am I an atheist. Perhaps there is a truth beyond both the religious and the disclaimers concerning the whole affair.

I ask this, the human mind has a definit function. Is it possible that there is common ground of reasoning for--not the mythology of religion--but the source material itself?

If you care further investigation on this possibility, at the bottom of this page,
http://www.archive.org/details/Language_and_Experience
is a pdf file, the written text for Language and Experience.
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=johnclark8659&sort=-publicdate
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reasoning logic
 
  0  
Sun 31 Oct, 2010 03:15 pm
@spendius,
I have watched him as well and I have never seen him speak of what he spoke of in that video,
I was hopeing that you may share your pont of views as to where he was wrong in what he said
reasoning logic
 
  -1  
Sun 31 Oct, 2010 03:17 pm
@julianhuxley,
Who wears high heels in airports?
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spendius
 
  0  
Sun 31 Oct, 2010 03:48 pm
@reasoning logic,
Either state your point or give it a rest. He's wrong for using science for what it was not intended for. I daresay he gets the cold shoulder quite a bit in academia. An opportunist winding up the masses with simple half-truths and sophistries and who knows he's doing just that. It's his career. The Bradlaugh revisitation. It's a niche market and Media does so enjoy a nice ding-dong.

Don't keep saying "what he spoke of". What specifically have you in mind?
reasoning logic
 
  0  
Sun 31 Oct, 2010 05:10 pm
@spendius,
I do apologize Spendius, as I am having a difficult time relating to your responses. Your last response was how he uses science and you lost me there! The reason I say this is because I did not see any science in the video I shared with you.

Please be honest with me, If you have hate for him and will not consider what he says please just say so, either way I will still respect you as a person.
I was only hoping that you would at least prove where he is wrong.
I know that he has to be wrong about something, Are we not all wrong at times? I no that I am wrong often and I love when I am able to see it as this is how I learn from my mistakes.
spendius
 
  1  
Sun 31 Oct, 2010 05:24 pm
@reasoning logic,
I've asked you this before rl and I make no apologies for asking it again--are you taking the piss or doing a good imitation of somebody who is taking the piss?

I can't stand the silly ******.
reasoning logic
 
  0  
Sun 31 Oct, 2010 05:33 pm
@spendius,
I am cool with that at least you are honest. I sure would like to discuse things with you that we both disagree about. But I do understand as I could only guess that there has to be something that I would not want to talk about.

If you told me that you were abducted by aliens and that you had a offspring by them I would probably respond the same way," so I can see some what where you are coming from.

There will be at times when we all speak of things that go so far from what we think is reasonable that we would not want to speak about them. Do you agree?
spendius
 
  1  
Sun 31 Oct, 2010 05:49 pm
@reasoning logic,
That would depend on who one was speaking to and who might be listening in.
reasoning logic
 
  0  
Sun 31 Oct, 2010 06:02 pm
@spendius,
Thanks Spendius
spendius
 
  1  
Sun 31 Oct, 2010 06:07 pm
@reasoning logic,
That's okay rl. Do you have any more tricky questions?
reasoning logic
 
  0  
Sun 31 Oct, 2010 06:22 pm
@spendius,
I do know that it is halloween but I was not in any way trying to be tricky!
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Pahu
 
  0  
Mon 1 Nov, 2010 01:33 pm

Mutations 1

Mutations are the only known means by which new genetic material becomes available for evolution (a).

a. “Ultimately, all variation is, of course, due to mutation.” Ernst Mayr, “Evolutionary Challenges to the Mathematical Interpretation of Evolution,” Mathematical Challenges to the Neo-Darwinian Interpretation of Evolution, editors Paul S. Moorhead and Martin M. Kaplan, proceedings of a symposium held at the Wistar Institute of Anatomy and Biology, 25–26 April, 1966 (Philadelphia: The Wistar Institute Press, 1967), p. 50.

“Although mutation is the ultimate source of all genetic variation, it is a relatively rare event,...” Ayala, p. 63.

[From “In the Beginning” by Walt Brown]
Edit [Moderator]: Link removed
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 1 Nov, 2010 01:36 pm
@Pahu,
The understanding of human evolution explains it all!
edgarblythe
 
  1  
Mon 1 Nov, 2010 01:49 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Pahu the paster. Why Pahu insists on befouling the thread with that **** is beyond me.
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