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Reply Tue 19 Jan, 2010 04:59 pm

http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1141053641/Awesome_Gun_Commercial

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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jan, 2010 09:19 am
@gungasnake,
I LOVED IT, GUNGA!!!


That 's my favorite kind of horror movie.

I 've sent the link to several friends n relatives.

THANK U!!!!!





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jan, 2010 02:33 am
@gungasnake,
I did not actually get a good look
at what gun was involved there.

Did anyone identify it ?





David
gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jan, 2010 06:42 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Can't tell. Looks a bit like one of those 9mm machinegun/rifles you see at gunshows but that's as much as you can see. The girl is firing full auto and holding the thing fairly well on target so you don't figure it to be a FAL or any such.

My own choice of all such weapons is the FAL. 100 Nations over a 30 - 40 year period is a pretty good argument.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jan, 2010 07:38 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:
Can't tell. Looks a bit like one of those 9mm machinegun/rifles you see at gunshows
but that's as much as you can see. The girl is firing full auto
and holding the thing fairly well on target so you don't figure it
to be a FAL or any such.

My own choice of all such weapons is the FAL.
100 Nations over a 30 - 40 year period is a pretty good argument.
Yeah, that .308 is good if u really wanna reach out
and touch someone, but for home defense situations,
I think its too much, too long range. I love the H&K MP5; very sweet almost no recoil.
Its almost like H&K repealed Newton 's 3rd Law of Motion.

U prefer the FAL over the M-14
and the AK 47 ?

That looked like a silencer on the front, but u coud hear it.





David
gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jan, 2010 08:59 am
@OmSigDAVID,
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U prefer the FAL over the M-14
and the AK 47 ?


By huge margins. Huge difference in power between the 308 and the AK cartridge and still little recoil in a 308 semiauto.

There were three basic kinds of 308 military semiautos. Germany used the HK mainly because the Belgians refused to sell them FALs after WW-II; I've never heard anybody say a kind word about the HK. The US went on using a modified M1/M14 for cultural reasons, the 14 not being that much of a change from the M1. The 308 cartridge corresponded to an advance in powder which came in around 44, smaller, more accurate, and ballistics nearly identical. The FAL was what everybody else in the world used, as accurate as it needed to be, stone totally reliable, and powerful. Build one to tighter specs like DSA does, and it's as accurate as you'd want.





OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jan, 2010 09:41 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:

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U prefer the FAL over the M-14
and the AK 47 ?


By huge margins. Huge difference in power between the 308 and the AK cartridge
and still little recoil in a 308 semiauto.

There were three basic kinds of 308 military semiautos.
Germany used the HK mainly because the Belgians refused to sell them FALs after WW-II;
I've never heard anybody say a kind word about the HK.
The US went on using a modified M1/M14 for cultural reasons,
the 14 not being that much of a change from the M1.
The 308 cartridge corresponded to an advance in powder
which came in around 44, smaller, more accurate, and ballistics nearly identical.
The FAL was what everybody else in the world used, as accurate
as it needed to be, stone totally reliable, and powerful.
Build one to tighter specs like DSA does, and it's as accurate as you'd want.
U don 't like H & K?
The way I look at it, the M-14 IS the M-1
with a bigger n better loading system and much lighter recoil.

How do u think the FAL stacks up on reliability next to the AK 47 ?
gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jan, 2010 11:41 am
@OmSigDAVID,
The FAL is the best of all military semiautos. It's stronger and more reliable than an AK and has a longer sight radius aside from the more powerful cartridge. In any sort of a fight on or around mountains from 400 - 1000 meters, the guys with AKs would just be targets.

There's ia also a new and presumably updated version of a 308 FN semiauto called an FNAR, which can be bought on gunbroker. A decent FAL anymore, you pretty much have to put together yourself.


OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 22 Jan, 2010 02:33 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:
The FAL is the best of all military semiautos. It's stronger and more reliable than an AK and has a longer sight radius aside from the more powerful cartridge. In any sort of a fight on or around mountains from 400 - 1000 meters, the guys with AKs would just be targets.

There's ia also a new and presumably updated version of a 308 FN semiauto called an FNAR,
which can be bought on gunbroker.
A decent FAL anymore, you pretty much have to put together yourself.



As far as reliability (buried in mud, etc.) the AK 47 is legendary.
I imagine that by the criterion of mechanical reliability,
the consensus is for the AK; don 't u think ?
gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 22 Jan, 2010 08:58 am
@OmSigDAVID,
The FAL is no less reliable than an AK. It has to be stronger, the receiver is forged and not stamped, and the barrel is mated to the receiver with something like 125 ft-lbs of torque. Head spacing is set via a heavy pin which is pressed in and those pins come in graded sizes wo that a FAL can quickly be brought back to new specs after several years and several tens of thousands of shots. Gas exhaust is easily adjustable and can quickly be set for any sort of ammo from the relatively light NATO round to heavier hunting rounds with heavier bullets, and an AK definitely cannot do that.

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