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Cold Sores And Herpes

 
 
Pitter
 
Reply Mon 4 Jan, 2010 07:37 pm
My understanding is that all cold sores are manifestations of Herpes simplex and I thought you catch it by kissing an infected person. I came accross a child, ten years old who seems to have frequently recuring and painfull outbreaks on his mouth. Are there other sources of cold sores on the mouth besides herpes and how would this child have been infected?
 
Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jan, 2010 07:40 pm
@Pitter,
there is a catholic priest joke just dying to pop out here, but I won't let it....

Shocked



herpes is a virus.

there are many ways to transmit it.
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jan, 2010 11:01 pm
@Pitter,
For what it is worth, shingles is also designated as one or another type of herpes. It's caused by chicken pox virus residing in a particular section of the spine. I suspect there are many such disorders or diseases of nerves which can show up here and there.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jan, 2010 06:59 am
@Pitter,
Yes, it's very, very easy to transmit. Sharing utensils, sharing drinking glasses, sharing towels, even just mouth-hand-hand-mouth transmission. (As in, someone who has it touches their mouth, then later touches someone's hand, and that second person touches their own mouth, which kids do a lot.)

I thought that an acquaintance who had shared food with my daughter had herpes simplex, and was very anxious for a while after (this happened a while ago now and my daughter is fine). Did a lot of research then and found how very easy it is to transmit (and how many people have it even without symptoms). It turned out that this person had herpes zoster (the chickenpox/ shingles virus) which is less and differently contagious.

If the person has shingles, it's contagious when it's a sore but the person who "gets" it gets chicken pox, not shingles. Then once you have chicken pox, there is always the possibility that the virus will result in shingles at some point, especially as you get older.

There is a new, fairly effective (~50%) vaccine against shingles though.

The one thing I never figured out in my research is what happens when someone who has been vaccinated for chicken pox (but hasn't had it) is exposed to active shingles. Is the vaccine strong enough that it's the same as if the person already had chicken pox, and they can't catch it? It seems like it, if exposure = chicken pox and the vaccine is protective against chicken pox.
sullyfish6
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jan, 2010 09:06 am
Friends have said that lots of yogurt and lycine really helped the mouth coldsores.
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BarbieQPickle
 
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Reply Tue 5 Jan, 2010 04:07 pm
@Pitter,
Everyone has a certain level/amount of herpes in their body. The child may not have caught it from anyone, just a natural occurrence of his/her body. It could also be from sharing things, or contact with a person infected by it, etc like everyone stated.
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Pitter
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jan, 2010 08:23 pm
Thank you all for your reponses. I know a lot more about "cold sores" now.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jan, 2010 08:29 pm
@sozobe,
sozobe wrote:
The one thing I never figured out in my research is what happens when someone who has been vaccinated for chicken pox (but hasn't had it) is exposed to active shingles. Is the vaccine strong enough that it's the same as if the person already had chicken pox, and they can't catch it? It seems like it, if exposure = chicken pox and the vaccine is protective against chicken pox.


I've never had chickenpox, shingles or herpes (all have the same virus) I did get vaccinated for chickenpox though and when I was around someone with a severe case of shingles, it did not affect me at all. So it works!
sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jan, 2010 06:27 am
@CalamityJane,
Good to know, thanks!
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Letty
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jan, 2010 08:55 am
@CalamityJane,
C.J. I have had "fever blisters" chickenpox, mumps, measles (both three day kind and two weeks kind) . No vaccinations at all for any of them. Never had shingles, etc.
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