HexHammer
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 06:13 am
@Cyracuz,
Cyracuz wrote:

I think she is just smart enough to realize that my posts being equally available to both of you, and you having failed to find anything useful in them on your own, she would just be repeating discussions with you that I have already had. Not a very interesting proposition.
Dude, you know very well I got her conerd. She's only displaying this overly dramatic scene to dodge the subject.
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 06:27 am
@HexHammer,
Only scoundrels corner ladies Wink
HexHammer
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 06:35 am
@Cyracuz,
Cyracuz wrote:

Only scoundrels corner ladies Wink
All I know is that it's a female name with an unknown gender behind it. If it's a man/female, it doesn't matter to me. We shouldn't lose our objectivity just because of such minescule thing? ..now should we ..my good Cy' ?!?
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 06:38 am
@HexHammer,
Perhaps not when there are so many other ways to lose it.
The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 06:47 am
@HexHammer,
HexHammer wrote:

The Pentacle Queen wrote:

HexHammer wrote:

O Cy' ..O Cy'! Oh why, Oh why!

PQ must answer, then we'll banter!

Then I'll invite you to a symphony of destruction..
then you can satisfy your compulsion..

It can be a war or a battle
choose amongst lambs or cattle

Pick a weapon, be a feather, sword or gun..
to me it doesn't matter, I'll join the fray for fun..


Well, that's just ******* stupid.
I feel A2K should be about growing, not winning.
Sorry, but I think you are stupid, A2K should be about intelligence and progression, not navelgazing mastrubation.


But I don't see how you have posted anything very intelligent, or how you're helping the 'progression' of anything here.
The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 06:48 am
@Cyracuz,
Cyracuz wrote:

Perhaps not when there are so many other ways to lose it.


Like.
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 07:00 am
@The Pentacle Queen,
Try understanding it in terms of his "naveglazing masturbation".

"Intelligence" is the feeling he gets upon writing that rather poetic rant.
The "progression" is merely the continuation of this stimuli until he reaches the point of "understanding", or intellectual orgasm.
If you are not helping him towards that, you are not being intelligent and you are not contributing to the progression. Rolling Eyes
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 07:03 am
@The Pentacle Queen,
I don't know precicely how those thumbs under our avatars work, but perhaps they are similar to the "like" function on fb?
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djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 07:13 am
Define Intelligence

no exact definition possible, its like art, i'm not sure what it is but i know it when i see it, and no amount of "expertise" is going to make me believe it's something i don't think it is


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The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 07:16 am
@HexHammer,
HexHammer wrote:

The Pentacle Queen wrote:
Well since I majored in aesthetics I'm not going to deny the attraction to the 'beautiful' or even 'mental masturbation'. But I think you're missing the point.
If my posts are 'irrational' or full of pot holes then would you please point out said pot holes and critique them rather than just making a general offensive statement.
As far as I have seen, on this thread, you made one contribution at the beginning, which was a good 'factual' post description of different types of intelligence and then for the rest of it just tried to but heads with various people. You have demonstrated a preference for the 'factual' rather than philosophical in your posts, which I support, but you seem to be making an error in presuming that this constitutes rationality... it doesn't, it's just parrot-mouthed repetition. Rationality is the ability to construct logical arguments from given premises, not just cite the premises and call everyone else stupid.

I also think you are misguided on your concept of 'use'. What is useful? Was any of the work of any of the philosophers 'useful'? Does what they say become less profound if it is not useful? Is posting on A2K useful? Is posting facts from wikipedia onto A2K more useful than posting personal philosophical insights on A2K?
This is excatly why I ask you to point out where Cy' has made ANYTHING useful.

Quote:
Rationality is the ability to construct logical arguments from given premises, not just cite the premises and call everyone else stupid.
This is where you are utterly wrong, along with so many other mastubational philosophers who refuse to see rationallity. It is "to construct USEFUL arguments from given premises".

Now I ask again, please point out where Cy' has made anything useful that can be of any use in the real world, other than serve as mere mental mastrubation.

Please don't dodge my simple question with absurd counter attacks, I ask a VERY simple question which should be easily satisfyed.


I hardly think I am being 'hysterical'.

No, you're just looking for a black and white answer from me, and are choosing to take my lack of presenting you with one as something it is not.
I think the 'use' of Cy's posts in relevance to me is evident when you see that I am only following 4 or 5 people on here, of which he is one. Cy's posts are useful for me because in my opinion he has the ability to express penetrating insights in extremely concise statements.
When he defined intelligence as 'the process of creating one's own reality' (was it exactly that?) he was doing that and only that, offering a plausible definition, definitions being general in their nature. If you look at your above statements you will see that each of them can be reduced to Cy's basic observation; you offered a more complete, expansive, and equally good answer through catergorisation.

As for any other concept of use, you must be clearer on what you consider 'useful' because I feel the word is being used pretty subjectively. Spinoza was a rationalist, but does that make his work 'useful'? It didn't help feed the poor or put the kids to bed or find a cure for cancer.

Do you mean, by 'use', that the subclauses of an argument should bear logical relation to the larger architecture of ideas and wind up with some kind of 'conclusion'? Because if you are, yes I agree this is how rational arguments work, but we were not talking of arguments, the topic is called 'define intelligence'. And also, if you are talking of 'use' in this sense, I didn't see your post exhibit that structure either, it just listed some types of intelligence.



I really fear Hex is displaying the same amount of despair that I feel when I read posts from people like Mark Noble.
The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 07:25 am
@Cyracuz,
Agreed.

What's a monkey wrench?
djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 07:25 am
@The Pentacle Queen,
a spanner
HexHammer
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 07:27 am
@djjd62,
..in the works.
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 07:47 am
@The Pentacle Queen,
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/904818/2/istockphoto_904818_monkeywrench.jpg

It's supposedly called monkey wrench because the inventor is named Charles Moncky.
HexHammer
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 07:54 am
@The Pentacle Queen,
The Pentacle Queen wrote:
he has the ability to express penetrating insights in extremely concise statements.

....

When he defined intelligence as 'the process of creating one's own reality' (was it exactly that?) he was doing that and only that, offering a plausible definition, definitions being general in their nature. If you look at your above statements you will see that each of them can be reduced to Cy's basic observation; you offered a more complete, expansive, and equally good answer through catergorisation.
Cy' only offerd "castles int he sky"-explenation, which can't fit the real world, and you accept it as plausible. There are no rationallity in Cy's posts, only beautiful rethorics, it can never fit the real world.

Let me pick this random topic http://able2know.org/topic/164202-1 Free energy?
It like any other of his works displays an eery lack of basic logic, basic understanding of very simple things. It should be blatant selfexplanatory that we can't have free energy in our lifetime, mayby in the far future, but as of now it has a high cost to produce energy, such extremely selfexplanatory thing shouldn't be asked, only a person with infantile logic would ask such question.

http://able2know.org/topic/161118-1 A thought on capitalism
Quote:
Maybe it doesn't need a computer. Maybe it needs a profound change in beliefs in all of us. Today the belief that it is right that we should apply ourselves to benefit first and foremost ourselves is practically universally accepted. This is a way of life that animals are bound to. They have no choice. We do, and I think that we can do alot better than supply and demand.

Capitalism is a monster with only mouth and belly. It doesn't have a conscience or a soul.

We keep arguing that we need the social functions of religion to prevent our science from becoming something that will kill us.
But capitalism is such a thing. It has neither conscience nor mercy, two ideals that are deeply valued by everything that wants to live.

It makes me laugh that people live in this world, and are afraid to go to hell...
This babble striks me as utterly skitzo ramblings, he does not display ANY basic understanding of psycology. With this infantile logic he uses very exorbiant metaphors that are driven by wishful thinking.

He doesn't understand the phallacies of humans, their inherent pscylogically weaknesses, needs and shortcomings. He even seems to disregard the answer from manored, which seems very intelligent and more plausible than anything.

...so, maybe I should repharse my question, quote and link something useful that Cy' has made, because I fail utterly at finding anything.
HexHammer
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 07:54 am
@Cyracuz,
Cyracuz wrote:

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/904818/2/istockphoto_904818_monkeywrench.jpg

It's supposedly called monkey wrench because the inventor is named Charles Moncky.

In Denmark we call it a Svensknøgle "Swedish Key".
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 08:15 am
@HexHammer,
Hex, now you are just being silly.

Please show me an example in "Free Energy?" of what you think constitutes "an eery lack of basic logic, basic understanding of very simple things".

I am almost entirely certain that the only thing you will demonstrate with your attempt is that the shortcomings you assign to me are in fact yours. That your entire malcontent with the post is due to a willingness to misunderstand on your part, motivated by the need to validate your claim that I am full of BS and nothing else.
And you call yourself a philosopher? Lol.

As for your understanding of "the phallacies of humans, their inherent pscylogically weaknesses, needs and shortcomings", you would have to agree that this is a perspective, and that there is no conclusive evidence to support this notion at all. It is merely a remnant of the religious concept of original sin. Are you religious, Hex?
HexHammer
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 08:18 am
@Cyracuz,
Cyracuz wrote:

Hex, now you are just being silly.

Please show me an example in "Free Energy?" of what you think constitutes "an eery lack of basic logic, basic understanding of very simple things".

I am almost entirely certain that the only thing you will demonstrate with your attemt is that the shortcomings you assign to me are in fact yours.

As for your understanding of "the phallacies of humans, their inherent pscylogically weaknesses, needs and shortcomings", you would have to agree that this is a perspective, and that there is no conclusive evidence to support this notion at all. It is merely a remnant of the religious concept of original sin. Are you religious, Hex?
Think you need to re-read my answer for the engergy subject, and for the 2nd answer, you need to study psycology.

Cyracuz
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 09:33 am
@HexHammer,
From what you have demonstrated I know more of psychology than you.

You just make these bs claims, but never back them up with anything that isn't clearly just your opinion.

HexHammer
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 09:34 am
@Cyracuz,
Cyracuz wrote:

From what you have demonstrated I know more of psychology than you.

You just make these bs claims, but never back them up with anything that isn't clearly just your opinion.
First sign of a problem, is denial.

Then this should be easy to answer, what danger does "group think" hold?
 

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