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Osama Bin Ladin's Letter to America/ Quote Without Comment!

 
 
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 25 Nov, 2002 06:57 pm
Hey Phoenix!

It worked AFTER I submitted it! Now I get it! Was wondering whay I kept getting the WORDS instead! Duh ...

Laughing Very Happy Razz Smile Very Happy

Thank you!
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 25 Nov, 2002 07:01 pm
msolga- This high level computer stuff is kinda tricky! Laughing
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 25 Nov, 2002 07:10 pm
Yes, Phoenix, especially if one is a Luddite! Rolling Eyes
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 26 Nov, 2002 12:41 am
I'm 'reading' The Guardian daily - as well as The Independent (besides the Manchester Evening Post) as UK papers.

I don't think, you can label this/those papers -any European, btw, in my opinion - "liberal", when you refer to that in the American meaning of the word. (The Guardian is, IMHO, 'left-liberal' in the European sense.)

The article was printed in The Obsever, which is, so to say, the Guardian's Sunday issue.

The news wasn't mentioned a lot in Europe('s Monday papers) either, which may have various reasons. One may be that there are a lot of "internet news", which turned out to be false later.

It was mentioned with some sentences in regional papers here in Germany, but even Der Spiegel didn't have it (too late for the printed version, although).
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Tue 26 Nov, 2002 07:07 am
Craven wrote:
Quote:
Maybe our news outlets are worried that they might look like Osama's messengers?




At first, I agreed with that idea. After I thought about it, I am not so sure. The letter was originally written in Arabic, and posted to an Islamic website. I am sure that the terrorists would get their information from THAT site, and not translated into English in American newspapers.

There must be ANOTHER reason why this, a major news story, was not publicized in the U.S. And I would love to know what that reason is!
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maxsdadeo
 
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Reply Tue 26 Nov, 2002 07:14 am
I believe the limited coverage on the letter has more to do with the veracity of it's authenticity than anything else.

It sounds too much like what someone from Europe would think UBL might say.

Purely conjecture on my part, however.

I too read the Guardian, but don't tell my conservative friends!
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fishin
 
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Reply Tue 26 Nov, 2002 07:17 am
maxsdadeo wrote:
I too read the Guardian, but don't tell my conservative friends!


Ha! Caught ya max! You're going to get thrown out of thr club if ya keep that up! lol
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Tue 26 Nov, 2002 07:21 am
Funny thing is that until yesterday, I NEVER read the Guardian. Got to it through another link!
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Debacle
 
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Reply Tue 26 Nov, 2002 06:36 pm
The British press, for the most part, has been less inclined to suppress certain matters than the mainstream American press. There's no question our Fourth Estate has it's own agenda, but perhaps in this particular instance, it has declined to report simply because there has already been so much emphasis placed on this threat by the government.

As to the authenticity of the "letter", it pretty much covers the same ground as the bin Laden message published before 9/11, so I would assume it's reasonable to accept it at face value.
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 27 Nov, 2002 02:44 pm
And what did you think of Guardian Unlimited, Phoenix?
How would you compare their coverage of the same events as US papers?
Curious.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 27 Nov, 2002 02:57 pm
Msolga- Actually, this was my first experience with The Guardian, but believe me, it will not be my last. I am concerned that the American media will report the happenings of any fifth rate terrorist, but did not print Bin Laden's letter. Curious!
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 27 Nov, 2002 02:59 pm
There was a big thing a while back about broadcasting Osama videos. There was some kind of official agreement, I believe (I could probably find it with a Google search but am on my way out the door) that US news outlets NOT broadcast them, so as to not get messages to terrorist cells already in America. I can imagine that there would be similar reasoning behind this.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 27 Nov, 2002 03:00 pm
Be sure to take your anti-bonehead pills before you begin readin' The Guardian on a regular basis, Boss . . .
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 27 Nov, 2002 03:04 pm
Found this in a quick search:

http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2001/cyb20011015.asp#4
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 27 Nov, 2002 03:04 pm
Setanta- Are you trying to tell me something????? Razz
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 27 Nov, 2002 03:08 pm
Well, only that The Guardian editorial staff is a somewhat to the right of Francisco Franco, politically speaking . . .
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 27 Nov, 2002 03:16 pm
And why, do you think, Setanta, is The Guardian is generally labeled in Europeas:

"The Guardian is distinguished by its cosmopolitan views, its literary and artistic coverage and criticism, and its foreign correspondence. Owned by a trust and financially secure, the paper has always taken an independent liberalstance and was once called "Britain's non-conformist conscience." Its editorial excellence is generally credited to the 57-year tenure of Charles Prestwich Scott, which began in 1871, when the paper covered both the Prussian and the French sides in the Franco-German War. From time to time the paper has lost readers because it espoused unpopular causes, but it has always maintained an independent editorial policy and great breadth and depth of news coverage." ?
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 27 Nov, 2002 03:22 pm
Well guys, I think that I will keep an open mind, and keep reading!
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 29 Nov, 2002 03:52 am
Phoenix

Have you checked out the Guardian's political cartoon section?
I haven't recently, but after November 11 they had a brilliant collection from newspaper around the world.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Fri 29 Nov, 2002 07:11 am
msolga- No, but I certainly will! This was my first contact with the Guardian.
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