Obama made a terrible decision re Afghanistan

No, I didnt. How much ego does it take to keep saying you know what I have done better than me ? Is it your desire to make yourself into a living joke ?
Disagreeing with you is not the end of the world. Some people take it as badge of honour given your repeated inabilty to be correct.

You'll learn that CI has no shortage of ego; he could possibly be the archetype.

What you misinterpret as ego is actually your displeasure at my challenges on your posts. It has nothing to do with "ego." It's about trying to discuss subjects here on a2k with reasonable people who understands the rules of debate. I challenge many posters on a2k, and some challenge me - as they should. That has nothing to do with ego.

I assure you it's not that CI.

What I see frequently in your posts is subjective and complete dismissal of people's thoughts, most of the time w/o any counter arguments of your own, just an insult.

Not all of your posts are like that, but I'd say the majority (>50%) are. And, admittedly, my previous post is equally bad unfortunately. I'm confident that these types of posts make up a small minority of my contributions though.

Lets take the example presented by you to date...




Show me how you have challenged my posts ? You have guessed what I did, then told me what I did, then told me you are not egotistical it is my fault because I am displeased at....what ?....your wit and retort ? Show me how you have, from your words, discussed, reasoned and used the rules of debate ?

It is not a matter of "not moving fast enough" on the issue of women's rights, Ionus. The fact is, this pre-election law passed by Karzai's government meant a significant move backwards. To a position similar to the Taliban. I don't know what else I can say to make my point any clearer to you. Going backwards is not the same thing as moving slowly.

From the article I posted last night:

Your time frame is too short. What happened in our own society for womens rights ? Are we there yet ? How long have we been travelling ?

I say two steps forward, one backward.

Sorry, Ionus.

I'm having great difficulty attempting to have a discussion with you about this issue.

As the saying goes in Oz, you keep moving the goal posts.
And you haven't paid any attention to what I've actually said. So ....

You could start by asking why 9/11 happened.
If the US realized they are no longer the only world power and stopped invading other countries the world would be a much safer place.
Most peace loving people in the world see the US as the biggest terrorist organization on the planet.

Are you referring to WWI or WWII ? People have benefited greatly from the scrifce of the US and the only thing they have got in return is wingeing. Anyway, they are the only world power. The US got itself into trouble by providing the Israelites with a homeland. Arab Muslims are a male dominated beligerant society that only understand power. They lost land after trying to exterminate Israel and now they are crying they want it back. Stiff bikkies.

Clearly the poster you're responding to was not referring to WW1 or WW2.
He was referring to 9/11

Yes, that is clear. I was responding by suggesting the world would not be a safer place, what would have happened in WWI and WWII ? I also addressed the reasons for 911.

If you say so.

The fact of the matter is that the Afghanistan situation we have now is not Iraq or Vietnam or even the situation in when Russia was fighting them or when England (whatever name we are supposed use there now) occupied it.

Bin Laden for whatever his stated reasons as the leader of AQ attacked our country and killed over 3000 people. They were protected and harbored by the Taliban were in control of Afghanistan at that time. We defended ourselves like we had every right to by invading that country and then just when we had Bin Laden in our sights we decided to pull back and concentrate on Iraq who had nothing to do with that horrible attack. Meanwhile, the Taliban and AQ went to other countries mainly Pakistan and have regained their strength and have been in Afghanistan and Pakistan killing people and gaining power in both countries.

Should we just shrug our shoulders and say "oh, well, we ain't going to ever win, so we should just let it go.?" Is nothing worth defending anymore? AQ is still alive and out there and they haven't decided they suddenly like us; we are still in danger from them and the Taliban right now is pretty chummy with AQ in Pakistan and they control most of Afghanistan. Furthermore, I don't see what we did before Bush invaded Iraq to deserve our having over 3000 people killed and we just take it because we deserved it.

Also saying we should just concentrate on killing AQ and the Taliban has been the strategy which has been killing a lot of innocent people with those air attacks; and has not been too sucussful plus just being not very humane.



Obama pressed for faster surge
AFGHAN REVIEW A MARATHON

So I guess it follows, if you're arguing tit for tat in such a creative way ... that Iraqis, who were shocked & awed for absolutely no valid reason, have reasonable grounds for retaliation against the country responsible?

You got that right! Unfortunately, many Middle East countries also see us as invaders and occupiers of some of their countries while they see Israel as a terrorist country against Palestinians that we support with our politics and treasure.

The US is the problem not the cure.
If you are American ask yourself why you were attacked on 9/11.

I was referring to 9/11 but if you want to dicuss the Second World War I don't mind; the US only entered that conflict when it was almost won and the only reason the entered was because Germany declared war on the US at end of 1941. Trouble with Americans they create their own fiction and believe it.
I lived through the second World War, did you?

anton, on this anniversary of the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor... why don't you answer your own
question and tell us why you think Muslim extremists launched a sneak attack against America on 9/11.

Thank you.

Yes, I was alive when the very first life began on this planet, but I was very small. You are in your 90's ?