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JTT
 
Reply Sat 14 Nov, 2009 11:18 pm
Quote:
Army Sends Infant to Protective Services, Mom to Afghanistan

by Dahr Jamail, November 14, 2009


U.S. Army Specialist Alexis Hutchinson, a single mother, is being threatened with a military court-martial if she does not agree to deploy to Afghanistan, despite having been told she would be granted extra time to find someone to care for her 11-month-old son while she is overseas.

Hutchinson, of Oakland, California, is currently being confined at Hunter Army Airfield near Savannah, Georgia, after being arrested. Her son was placed into a county foster care system.

http://original.antiwar.com/jamail/2009/11/13/army-sends-infant-to-protective-services-mom-to-afghanistan/

 
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 14 Nov, 2009 11:24 pm
@JTT,
Does anyone remember the "Love Boat" from the first Gulf War where women got pregnant to avoid duty ?
Mame
 
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Reply Sat 14 Nov, 2009 11:27 pm
@JTT,
What the heck is wrong with the USA? Are they that desperate?
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 14 Nov, 2009 11:36 pm
@Mame,
They simply don't want to take chances on being cut out of those oil deals, ummm, I mean, helping the Afghan people, no that's wrong, getting Bin Laden, at least I think that's the latest story.
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Sglass
 
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Reply Sat 14 Nov, 2009 11:38 pm
@Ionus,
Back in pirate days women pirates plead their bellies to avoid execution.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 14 Nov, 2009 11:54 pm
Women have destroyed any semblance of professionalism in the military. I dont know about the US, but here they get their choice of posting so they can be with their family if they get pregnant. They dont have to go on exercise or do guard duty/picket duty because they have to go home and take care of the child. This puts more stress on the male members and their families. They serve less time than the males and they cost far more in support, like medical.
I had one female who was having sex with my CO. Is she a bad soldier and do I write her a bad report and suffer on my report ? Is she a good soldier and do I write her a good report and earn the CO's favour ? How do I distinguish between the two having been compromised ? What if the CO had put pressure on her to have sex ? What if he didnt pressure her but later when it falls over she tells his wife and Brigade Commander that he did ?
If we were short men I could understand it but we are not that desperate. If they have "after sex guilt" it is common for them to claim they were raped, especially if it gets them back home.
And now the situation will be even more complex with gays.
An all male hunter group has been destroyed so some women can run bare foot through the boys. Lots of fun if you like men.
dadpad
 
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Reply Sun 15 Nov, 2009 01:16 am
@Ionus,
Its your CO who should be on report Ionus although its clear it take two to tango.
If the army havn't been able to forsee and develop systems and proceedures to deal with exactly this scenario by now there is no help for 'em.
I'd hate to serve under a CO that cant think with anything more than his dick and I think you should have let command know.

Brings to mind the old joke....
are you going to Pukka?
Nah mate she's me sister
Diest TKO
 
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Reply Sun 15 Nov, 2009 03:47 am
Let's put aside the fact that it makes sense that the woman shouldn't be deployed with such a young child.

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Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 15 Nov, 2009 04:11 am
@dadpad,
There has been a dramatic rise in the number of female drivers to staff officers. On a totally different track, are you aware Ike was screwing his female driver ? Chosen specifically for him. It is not a military, it is a dating service.

I had one female soldier who was having it off with two male soldiers at once every night on exercise. Someone told her husband who thinking I was invincible, said I was the one who told him. She set about taking me up on fraud charges on a seperate matter which didnt work of course as I wasnt guilty. Eventually it all settled down and she returned to her husband and two preschool children.

Want more true stories, each more unbelievable than the last ?
Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 15 Nov, 2009 04:12 am
@Diest TKO,
Lets not put aside the fact that women shouldnt be in the military.
Sglass
 
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Reply Sun 15 Nov, 2009 04:25 am
@Ionus,
Ike had an intimate relationship with his driver, but, in a book she wrote about their relationship she stated he was impotent.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 15 Nov, 2009 04:36 am
@Sglass,
Ouch ! If I were Ike I would take a page from Patton and slap soldiers !! Seriously, I had never come across that and it surprised me. Maybe she couldnt spell and was trying to say he was important.
dadpad
 
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Reply Sun 15 Nov, 2009 04:40 am
Is the military the only workplace where relationships should not be allowed to happen?
Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 15 Nov, 2009 04:46 am
@dadpad,
No, but others have codes of conduct. Doctors are not allowed to sleep with patients, that sort of thing. The military have a long way to go. In the civy world, if someone is guilty they can be brought up on charges and drummed out. In the military world, throwing someone out of the military may be exactly what they want. What if a woman gets pregnant to avoid combat ? Is that a self inflicted wound ? What happens to the child ? Does the father have to pay child support if she was using him to commit a crime ? Should we conscript women or are they just playing soldier to get at the men - they dont want to go to war. Any women reading this, how do you feel aboput being conscripted and does it give you the right to stay home because you have a baby, like at the start of the thread ? What about men who have young kids ?
Diest TKO
 
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Reply Sun 15 Nov, 2009 07:54 am
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:

Lets not put aside the fact that women shouldnt be in the military.

I disagree. I don't think they should be denied access to the military.

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Mame
 
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Reply Sun 15 Nov, 2009 08:39 am
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:

Ouch ! If I were Ike I would take a page from Patton and slap soldiers !! Seriously, I had never come across that and it surprised me. Maybe she couldnt spell and was trying to say he was important.


Maybe she meant 'incontinent'.

It's not the fault of the women, it's the fault of the system, those who make these rules. And it's not just about women. Here, Sikhs don't have to wear helmets when riding bikes or motorcycles, or when working in certain jobs (RCMP, for example) because their religion dictates they wear their turbans. Now, is that right?

And then in Pediatrics, we had students from Saudi, Kuwait, UAE, etc who demanded a praying room and time off to pray several times a day. I understand their religion requires that, but then choose a job that doesn't interfere with your religion. Medical emergencies wait for no one.
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Mame
 
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Reply Sun 15 Nov, 2009 08:40 am
@Ionus,
And where is the kid's father? Why foster care?
Mame
 
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Reply Sun 15 Nov, 2009 08:41 am
@Ionus,
Ionus, men working in some professions were exempted from having to go to war. Raising a family is considered a job. Unpaid, but a job.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 15 Nov, 2009 04:42 pm
@Mame,
One of my soldiers was about to get married, it was a very happy occasion. He recieved a letter saying for the next 17 years he was to pay one third of his wages in child support and maintenance. Two years back, a woman made a very determined effort to get him into bed. She wanted to get pregnant so she wouldnt have to work everyday and he was fit, strong and reasonably good looking. Initially she refused to tell the government who the father was (she didnt really know much anyway) but was forced to or her support payments would be stopped. He was eventually tracked down. What happened to his body, his choice ?
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Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 15 Nov, 2009 04:46 pm
@Diest TKO,
Quote:
I disagree. I don't think they should be denied access to the military.
The only thing I have seen women contribute that a man couldnt, is sex. And now with the new policy on gays, men can do that too. Sex is very disruptive and can destroy morale. Female soldier : "I wil have sex with you, you and of course you, sir, but not you or you". When the bullets start flying we will see what this has done to group cohesion.
 

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