will there be a war?

The same thing is happening in the Democratic party. Progressive wingers are disgusted by the lack of any real reforms. They also voted last night, only their votes weren't counted. They are the ones that stayed home and refused to continue to vote for either party. They don't get it that by doing so, they shot themselves in the foot just like the Conservative wingers did in District 23.

The best thing that can happen out of all of this is the creation of a independent/centrists' party. Having that as a viable third political party would force the needed governing from the center that this country's citizens are so hungry for.

well I suppose in a way the poor do create the jobs, they are the major consumers, they have made Walmart/China what it is today. (I'm pretty heavily invested in China funds)

Is it the poor who create jobs? That's news to me!

A bank president can most likely wash a floor, but a janitor most likely cannot run a bank.

I will ignore your assault on my character. I have been called worse in my lifetime!!! [/b][/color]

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My Gosh ebrown we agree again. At least to the extent that most voters are satisfied with the candidates they vote for. Surely some people detest all of the available candidates and simply don't vote, but I suspect they are a small number.

This nonsense about civil wars within either of the main parties has been trotted out before and has never amounted to anything.

We don't agree about civil wars (although it is nice to have some support for our two party system of democracy).

It seems clear that the GOP has some serious internal strife right now that they are going to have to deal with (and I don't mind saying that I take some pleasure in this). It wasn't just about Dede Scazzofava-- you had Gingrich vs. Palin; pragmatism vs. purity.

Of course, the Democratic party has had to deal with this in the past, but right now it is the GOP that has the serious rifts.

My prediction is that in the future the GOP will move to the center (I guess that would be the left for them) which will give them more play with the true center and conservative Democrats.

But in the short term, the Palin/Beck/Tea Party wing of the party is going to cause some fireworks (to the detriment of the GOP) for a while.

You got to appreciate the good times (cause I know there is a cycle to these things).

dyslexia wrote:

well I suppose in a way the poor do create the jobs, they are the major consumers, they have made Walmart/China what it is today. (I'm pretty heavily invested in China funds)

I understand what you are saying, but if there were no one to create the businesses, there would be nothing for people to consume.

I sometime think about this business of taxing rich people at a higher rate than the rest of us. I wonder how many factories won't be built, how many jobs won't be created. Why the hell should people put their asses on the line to risk starting up a business, when if they succeed they have to give a big chunk of their money to the government?

if they succeed they have to give a big chunk of their money to the government?

chicken or egg, yeah I get that.

chicken or egg, yeah I get that.

it would have deprived Democrats of their ability to spin what any rational person will recognize was a major victory for the GOP and a major setback for Obama.

Butrflynet wrote:

The best thing that can happen out of all of this is the creation of a independent/centrists' party. Having that as a viable third political party would force the needed governing from the center that this country's citizens are so hungry for.

Oh how I agree with you. I'm picking Libertarians.

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Nah, I'd choose the pragmatists.

Would your centrist party merely take the compromised view on every issue?

Everybody knows it is the poor people shipping all the jobs overseas, running ponzi schemes and sending the banks and auto companies to bankruptcy.