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the Obama effect

 
 
Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Thu 24 Sep, 2009 09:02 pm
@ebrown p,
If I happen to run across something silly I'll may say something. I'm certainly not following you around anywhere.

Maybe you just say a lot of silly stuff? Wink
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 24 Sep, 2009 10:15 pm
@dyslexia,
dyslexia wrote:

my interest in starting this thread had nothing to do with the amount of bullets being manufactured in the USA, I was only interested in the "Obama effect" that seems to be that ammo sales escalate when a democrat is elected to the whitehouse.


Well, in that case, I'll fess up. I haven't bought a single gun or bullet since the campaign started, lo these many years ago.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 24 Sep, 2009 11:54 pm
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:

Quote:
We shouldn't start arguing, David.
We'd never convince each other.
O, but, Osso: we can delight in
the lyrical poetry of the argument -- the light, mental dance.



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I understand how you think,
or think I can put myself in your place;
I'm not trying to change your mind.

I don t need to take it too seriously any more,
now that, courtesy of the USSC, things r drifting my way:
toward restoration of the former laissez faire freedom


Quote:

I doubt you've looked into how I think
(raised with atom bombs, literally).
We both lived thru the 3rd World War: we won all 3 world wars.


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I have a tough time agreeing to many of the US war actions over my lifetime,
but sometimes agree with some of it.
Losing wars can bring bad luck.



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Having been raised with major blasts,
though not on my own house,

I quiver at people getting joy out of weapons that kill.

Did u give them a fair chance?
Just keep the muzzle pointed down range and open up when u r ready.

Submachineguns really are tons of fun.








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However -- a colonel friend of my father's
(the Danger is My Business guy) taught me to shoot bow and arrow
and I liked it (eh, me and chjsa), so I sort of understand liking guns for themselves.

Yeah; its been quite a few years since last I added to my gun collection
out of security considerations. More recently, my acquisitions
have resulted from esthetic or historical interest -- or fun.


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And I do understand the need to defend against violence coming at you -
even if that is not where I put my time, I get it in a general sense.
Yeah; guns are health insurance.



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I'm more interested in how enemies can come down from the rages of enmity, though I'm no expert.
Let me guess, partially through economics, another subject I'm not conversant at.
That 's unpredictable. Predators (both human and animal)
have killed out of non-mercenary sadism.
In a predatory emergency, it is better for the victim
to have full control of the situation.




ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2009 01:16 am
@OmSigDAVID,

Ok, David, I still think you are off base and travelling to Yonkers.





OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2009 02:05 am
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:


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Ok, David, I still think you are off base and travelling to Yonkers.
I HAVE been there; the Raceway ?





David
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2009 04:27 pm
@dyslexia,
Quote:
my interest in starting this thread had nothing to do with the amount of bullets being manufactured in the USA, I was only interested in the "Obama effect" that seems to be that ammo sales escalate when a democrat is elected to the whitehouse.


I would have been interested in a discussion about this, too.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2009 04:29 pm
@msolga,
well msolga, that makes two of us.
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2009 04:40 pm
@dyslexia,
I know, dys!

Perhaps you should try again, on another thread, & make your intentions really, really clear? Wink
ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2009 04:58 pm
@msolga,
Dys is already clear. I may address the actual question (I thought I did, oh, well) but got off to a digression, which interests me. Not all that sorry, and I'll probably post more digression.

But re Obama effect..

- paranoia about liberals or proto centrist presidents who are taken by righties to be way lefties
- paranoia about gun enthusisasts who aren't irresponsible or, eek, terrorists of one kind or another
- routine when Dems are elected (I've no idea)
- more pro Obama veiling of their real agenda (not my pov)
- fill in your own blank
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2009 05:04 pm
@ossobuco,
Quote:
Dys is already clear.


Joke, osso, I was joking!
ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2009 05:14 pm
@ossobuco,
Back to David -
my father and his crew were the first to photo shoot down the center of an atom bomb explosion. At the least, he was away from home then, when I was something like five and a half. At the longest, I'd like to talk to him now about all his reactions to that. He was a philosophy major in earlier years. He had a lot of health and, I understand now, depression difficulties just about the time we could begin to really talk.

The denouement is that I'm chary about weapons and their proliferation, though I admit not really wanting to stop science. I never think of any of it as fun, say, re movies.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2009 05:16 pm
@msolga,
OK, but I have a bee in my bonnet.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2009 05:34 pm
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:

Dys is already clear. I may address the actual question (I thought I did, oh, well) but got off to a digression, which interests me. Not all that sorry, and I'll probably post more digression.

But re Obama effect..

- paranoia about liberals or proto centrist presidents who are taken by righties to be way lefties
- paranoia about gun enthusisasts who aren't irresponsible or, eek, terrorists of one kind or another
- routine when Dems are elected (I've no idea)
- more pro Obama veiling of their real agenda (not my pov)
- fill in your own blank


I voted for Obama and have also purchased a new gun and several thousand rounds of ammo since the election.

2 main reasons. 1) The chances that Obama or the democrats will do something about firearms to either reduce their availability or make them more expensive to buy or use is obviously increased when they controll all the branches of government. 2) The economy tanked and crimes has risen as a result.

I know several people who voted for Obama and have since bought guns for the first time as well.

You'd be wrong to characterize this as being an all right-wing behavior.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2009 05:37 pm
well anyway, I probably should pick up a couple boxes of winchester 30-30 ammo.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2009 05:42 pm
@maporsche,
I didn't mean to characterize it as all right wing, or I did but was just riffing. That was my first thought, but I get it that I was short sighted.
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roger
 
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Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2009 05:54 pm
@dyslexia,
dyslexia wrote:

my interest in starting this thread had nothing to do with the amount of bullets being manufactured in the USA, I was only interested in the "Obama effect" that seems to be that ammo sales escalate when a democrat is elected to the whitehouse.


Then, it only stands to reason that the makers of guns and ammunition support Democratic candidates. I'll vote for a Republican in hopes of keeping prices down.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2009 05:59 pm
@roger,
mmmmm. Sheesh, that bears thinking about.
roger
 
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Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2009 06:02 pm
@ossobuco,
Aw, I was just pulling your leg. Didn't expect it to come off in my hand.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 25 Sep, 2009 06:07 pm
@roger,
smiles, but it was an interesting idea.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 26 Sep, 2009 02:47 am
@roger,
roger wrote:

dyslexia wrote:

my interest in starting this thread had nothing to do with the amount of bullets being manufactured in the USA, I was only interested in the "Obama effect" that seems to be that ammo sales escalate when a democrat is elected to the whitehouse.


Then, it only stands to reason that the makers of guns and ammunition support Democratic candidates.
I'll vote for a Republican in hopes of keeping prices down.
Shoud we get into the habit of making our own guns and ammunition ?
AK 47s are fast and easy.
 

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