the Obama effect

@roger,

roger wrote:

Our Walmart dropped their handgun line about 15 years ago.
That's why I shop at Target.

Yeah; that 's where I get my targets.

David

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@dyslexia,

What's the big deal with 7 billion rounds per year? That only comes to 583,333 rounds per month? That's what, maybe 58 million per month? Someone posted that there were a million guns sold in August. Fifty-eight rounds per gun doesn't sound like a heck of a lot.

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@kickycan,

kickycan wrote:

How could this be? In the movie "Bowling for Columbine",
wasn't there a scene where Michael Moore and two kids who had
been injured by guns go in there and bother the corporate a-holes
enough that they decided to stop selling guns in K-Mart?

Does anyone else remember this?

There was a counter-campaign to get them re stored.

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@roger,

roger wrote:

What's the big deal with 7 billion rounds per year?
That only comes to 583,333 rounds per month?
That's what, maybe 58 million per month?
Someone posted that there were a million guns sold in August.

Fifty-eight rounds per gun doesn't sound like a heck of a lot.

I better get some more ammo.

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@roger,

Assuming we agree there are 12 months in a year... that would be over 583 million per month (7 billion / 12).

For perspective, consider that there are only 360 million people to shoot in the U.S (which is under 1 months worth of ammunition). And 7 billion (one years worth of bullets) is more than enough than one for every human being on Earth.

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@OmSigDAVID,

I think you're wrong. Got any supporting evidence for that claim?

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When u r using submachineguns, the ammo does not last very long.

What is your favorite SMG, Mr. Brown ?

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@kickycan,

kickycan wrote:

I think you're wrong. Got any supporting evidence for that claim?

I didn 't think I 'd have to prove it.

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@OmSigDAVID,

Quote:

What is your favorite SMG, Mr. Brown ?

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better review your powers of ten, Roger.

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ARTIST: Buffalo Springfield
TITLE: For What It's Worth
Lyrics and Chords (oops, I edited the chords)

There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

What a field-day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side
It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away

We better stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, now, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

Link - http://www.guntheranderson.com/v/data/forwhati.htm

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@ebrown p,

The overwhelming majority of ammunition is not used to shoot people, but for gun sport. And a very short time at a shooting range will go through a lot of ammunition (you can easily do 100 rounds in 15 minutes).

In short, that's some pretty silly perspective. It's as nutty as some of the gun nuts are to portray their consumption of ammo to be about killing everyone on earth.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

kickycan wrote:

I think you're wrong. Got any supporting evidence for that claim?

I didn 't think I 'd have to prove it.

Of course you don't have to prove it. It's just that when you just throw that out like that, it seems to me that you're either making an assumption with no knowledge of what actually happened, or you are just blowing smoke up my ass for fun.Which is it?

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@Robert Gentel,

my interest in starting this thread had nothing to do with the amount of bullets being manufactured in the USA, I was only interested in the "Obama effect" that seems to be that ammo sales escalate when a democrat is elected to the whitehouse.

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@ossobuco,

ossobuco wrote:

ARTIST: Buffalo Springfield
TITLE: For What It's Worth
Lyrics and Chords (oops, I edited the chords)

There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

What a field-day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side
It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away

We better stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, now, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

Link - http://www.guntheranderson.com/v/data/forwhati.htm

I LOVE IT, Osso.
I remember that one,
but submachineguns are just so many tons of fun
that u can 't forget about them !!!!!

My personal favorite is the 9mm H & K MP5,
tho I love the old .45 Thompson gun. ( who can resist them ?? )

David

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@Robert Gentel,

I get it Robert...you remind me of how nutty, idealogical or partisan I am on most of the threads I participate in no matter what the topic.

Not that I mind the extra attention, but have you considered automating this process (... come to think of it, maybe you have already).

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@kickycan,

Next time we have a campaign, we 'll bring a notary public.

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@OmSigDAVID,

I liked B. Springfield in the first place, still have the album., probably grotesquely melted by now. Paranoia runs many ways, including that paranoia or disconnect that Robert alludes to in his post. Past that, not all of paranoia is just wrong, which brings up yet another level of view.

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@ossobuco,

I 'm not paranoid.
I have NEVER had any enemies,
but I like to be prepared for random acts of depredation.

That HAS happened.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

We shouldn't start arguing, David. We'd never convince each other. I understand how you think, or think I can put myself in your place; I'm not trying to change your mind.

I doubt you've looked into how I think (raised with atom bombs, literally). I have a tough time agreeing to many of the US war actions over my lifetime, but sometimes agree with some of it. Having been raised with major blasts, though not on my own house, I quiver at people getting joy out of weapons that kill.

However -- a colonel friend of my father's (the Danger is My Business guy) taught me to shoot bow and arrow and I liked it (eh, me and chjsa), so I sort of understand liking guns for themselves.
And I do understand the need to defend against violence coming at you - even if that is not where I put my time, I get it in a general sense.

I'm more interested in how enemies can come down from the rages of enmity, though I'm no expert. Let me guess, partially through economics, another subject I'm not conversant at.

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