Child abduction victim found after 18 years in captivity

@OmSigDAVID,

Yes, I do think it's obvious.

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@Francis,

Francis wrote:

Not only that but Aidan has an amazing propensity to share so-called experiences in her life adapted to any kind of topic it happens to be in these threads.

This bears repeating. I've noticed this many, many times.

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@Francis,

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Not only that but Aidan has an amazing propensity to share so-called experiences in her life adapted to any kind of topic it happens to be in these threads.

I think I said in my initial post on this thread, that, in fact, I'd never been the victim of abuse.
I just meant that I don't know how to keep my mouth shut and cooperate with people who are trying to enforce their views and will on me.
And I never, ever have- even when I was three and the Sunday school lady was trying to make me keep my shoes on.

How many other threads have there been about victims of kidnap rescued after 18 years in captivity?
So in terms of participating in threads like this with any regularity - I don't know what you're talking about.

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@edgarblythe,

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Abuse often begins in the cradle. Try fighting from there.

I really resent being classified as someone who is siding with an abuser against the abused.
The fact of the matter is that there are children who are targeted for abuse based on personality characteristics they exhibit.
This is a FACT. The abuser targets children he or she knows he will be more successful with.

The child who happens to embody these characteristics is doing or has done nothing wrong. I have never implied that.
This girl did NOTHING wrong.
If anything - she exhibited more intelligence than I would have in the same situation because she was able to keep herself alive.
I don't think - with my personality characteristics -I'd have been able to.

You all are turning this into something totally unrelated to what I'm expressing and absolutely UGLY.
I have never and will never blame any victim for his or her abuse and anyone who says that I have even come close to even nearly expressing such a thing is a liar.

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Aidan wrote:

I don't know what you're talking about.

It's obvious too that you would try to divert from my original assertion.

I was questioning your ability to fight to the utmost consequences, an adult kidnapper, while being only eleven, as you pretended..

Wishful thinking is nice, isn't it?

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@Francis,

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Not only that but Aidan has an amazing propensity to share so-called experiences in her life adapted to any kind of topic it happens to be in these thread

Maybe because I've spent 24 years of my life working with children and adults who are continually dealing with the repercussions of their histories Francis.
Yes, it is something that interests me and I'm passionate about.

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@aidan,

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Maybe because I've spent 24 years of my life working with children and adults who are continually dealing with the repercussions of their histories Francis.

This, of course, was while you were working with people in prisons, working with immigrants, living in England, living in North Carolina, marrying a black man from the South, and then moving to the North . . .

How old are you, anyway . . . 200 years old?

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@Francis,

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It's obvious too that you would try to divert from my original assertion.

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I just meant that I don't know how to keep my mouth shut and cooperate with people who are trying to enforce their views and will on me.
And I never, ever have- even when I was three and the Sunday school lady was trying to make me keep my shoes on.

No - I didn't.
I'm not pretending anything.
This girl kept herself alive much better than I think I'd have been able to.

Also, having given birth - I can't imagine being fourteen and bearing a child in a tent without alerting the whole neighborhood to my distress.

I give this girl a whole hell of a lot of credit.
You have no idea what I think or have been through.

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Aidan wrote:

You have no idea what I think or have been through.

Well, at a point, after reading some of your posts, I've got a general idea of what you think.

I cannot get rid of this disagreeable feeling that you make up your stories as you go along..

Not a very convincing fiction writer, nor a real life narrator, for that matter..

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

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Maybe because I've spent 24 years of my life working with children and adults who are continually dealing with the repercussions of their histories Francis.

This, of course, was while you were working with people in prisons, working with immigrants, living in England, living in North Carolina, marrying a black man from the South, and then moving to the North . . .

How old are you, anyway . . . 200 years old?

crazy isn't it
one odd little dude

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@Setanta,

Okay Setanta - once and for all here's my timeline:

Born: San Antonio Texas March 23, 1960
Moved to Buffalo New York - 1961
Moved to East Brunswick, NJ 1964
Moved to Asheville, North Carolina to attend college:1978 (BA English/Behavioral Studies)
Moved to Chapel Hill, North Carolina to attend graduate school: 1983 M.Ed. Special Education
(Taught in Chapel Hill, NC public schools 1984-1986
Married: in New Jersey 1984 (and yes he is black)
Moved to Philadelphia Pa (for husband to attend medical School) 1986
(Taught in Riverside New Jersey public schools)
Moved to Durham North Carolina 1990- son born (yes he is interracial)
Moved to Bangor Maine - 1991
Daughter born in Chicago - 1992 (I adopted her- she's interracial too - birthmother black - birthfather unknown -I think he may have been spanish - she looks hispanic)
Lived in Maine for 11 years- taught in Bangor public schools and worked with developmentally delayed children in Waterville and was the residential director of a homeless shelter - all part-time while I was raising my kids)
2001-2004 - lived in Chapel Hill North Carolina - taught at East Chapel Hill High School 500 Weaver Dairy Road, Chapel Hill, North Carolina
2004 - moved to England. Worked part-time as a gardener in West Pennard, Somerset - then in a candy shop in Glastonbury - then in a jewelry store in Glastonbury - while privately tutoring.
2006- Worked in a prison in Wiltshire teaching adult literacy and numeracy.
2007- moved to New York - worked in a young offenders facility teaching GED math (came home because my father was ill - saw him through surgery and recuperation and in
2008- returned to live in Somerset England.

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@ehBeth,

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crazy isn't it
one odd little dude

David - please tell your friend I'm not a dude.

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@aidan,

Oh- oh - sorry - my son was born in Philadelphia a few months BEFORE I moved to Durham, North Carolina.
And we lived outside of Bangor only IN it for I and outside of it in Pittsfield for 10.5 years - not EXACTLY eleven.

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@aidan,

I don't know why you bother, Setanta will keep calling you a liar regardless of the evidence as it is his nature to be abrasive and rude.

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@Robert Gentel,

Takes one to know one, Bubba.

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I am curious to know, though, why you object to my comments, but not to those by Francis. You're really pathetic, you know?

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@Robert Gentel,

You know why I bother Robert? Because of people I respect on this forum- like you- and a lot of others.
This forum means a lot to me. I don't want you and the people I respect (like you- and there are a lot of them) to be swayed by the obsessive vendetta that several people have made it their business to conduct.

I bear no one any ill will - despite the scary crazy obsessiveness that keeps getting displayed and displayed and displayed....

And they call ME odd....

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

HUM, no. An abuser does not have the power to ruin a persons life, to steal their life.

Yes they do. Here, you said it yourself:

hawkeye10 wrote:

The abuse will forever be part of who these three women are though....they can never be normal.

hawkeye10 wrote:

A victim can choose to stay a victim and allow this to happen, or alternately they can heal and end the abusers power over them.

Memories can't be erased. Human beings are *changed* by the events of their lives and even though things may improve over time, they can never be *un-changed*. Nor should a victim of such actions be expected to have to "repair themselves", this is a long arduous psychological process which will likely follow them to the grave. And the abuser is not absolved from his actions simply because the damage has already been done and the victim can slowly improve.

I think you're rationalizing the situation beyond credulity.

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

I am curious to know, though, why you object to my comments, but not to those by Francis.

Because I've seen you harass aidan and call her a "liar" elsewhere (this is one of the reasons I call out your rudeness), and have yet to see Francis stoop that low. Simply put, I haven't seen him be half the jerk you are.

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You're really pathetic, you know?

Because I think you are rude and obnoxious? I see.

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@Robert Gentel,

No, not because you're being rude and obnoxious--and that's just the type of either willful deceit or ignorant misunderstanding that makes you pathetic. You are a master of the straw man, though, and routinely read things to suit your prejudices, rather that to attempt to understand what was actually written in context--the exchange i had with Vikorr which you interrupted was a classic example of that.

The reason i discovered that Aidan is probably a compulsive liar, by the way, was that Francis pointed it out. He's been on his/her trail a lot longer and a good deal more consistently than i have.

But i don't mind being your personal bete noire, have at it, Bubba.

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