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Child abduction victim found after 18 years in captivity

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 01:31 pm
@ehBeth,

I found the real-life Aidan not to be complicated nor tangled.





David
Francis
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 01:47 pm
David wrote:
Let the record indicate that u negatively criticised ME, however many years ago


Would you be kind enough as to indicate me at what chronological stage this extraordinary event took place?

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 01:49 pm
@boomerang,
boomerang wrote:

I don't know. I don't know what she was told or how she was treated.

I think it was Steven Staynor who was told that his parents didn't want him anymore and had sold him to the man who was actually his kidnapper.

I'm not 11 years old anymore and I cannot imagine how I would have reacted then. I would like to think I would have tried to escape but I can't say that for sure.

Because of Mo's rather unpredictable biological father there have been occassions where we have role played different ways that someone might try to get you into their car. "No matter what, don't get into the car, have your fight right then and there" has been my mantra.

Once someone gets you isolated, you're at their mercy. At that point, I'd do what I had to to survive.
Maybe he 'd like to apply the time
that he used to devote to drumming lessons
to defensive martial arts? U might consider asking him.





David
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aidan
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 02:31 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:

I found the real-life Aidan not to be complicated nor tangled.

Yep - have loved my family, my kids, my jobs, my homes, my schools, my dogs, my music, enjoy my food- have never been abused - couldn't have asked for better friends in my life....

uh-huh- complicated and tangled- hmmm.....she must think that because I haven't been able to find a pair of shoes that fit without giving me blisters.

The construct part I take as a compliment. And here I thought my life was full, yes, with varied experiences- but aside from having the opportunity to live in another country - pretty average. I guess not to some. I'll have to be more grateful for the opportunities I've had in view of the fact that what is reality to me seems like fantasy to others.
Yeah - how could I not take that as a compliment?

David - I found you to be much more mild mannered than I'd have thought. I expected you to talk more loudly than you did. Probably because at the time we met you were using caps and colors more.

Miklos I found to be exactly as he seems on a2k. He and his wife are absolutely delightful.

Joe Nation was a little less of the stereotypical New Yorker than I'd expected. But also very nice.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 03:43 pm
@aidan,
aidan wrote:

Quote:

I found the real-life Aidan not to be complicated nor tangled.

David - I found you to be much more mild mannered than I'd have thought.
I expected you to talk more loudly than you did.
Probably because at the time we met you were using caps and colors more.

I remember your saying that,
tho we conversed on the fone b4 we went to dinner
the first time. On the fone, u remarked that I spoke
the same as I wrote in the forum.

I believed that my use of different sizes
of font and coloration woud assist in making my posts
more easily understandable, but I got too many complaints,
with some people telling me that I was giving them headaches
and someone implied that I was contributing to his going blind,
so I have reduced my use of those devices.





David
dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 05:08 pm
I wonder how Jaycee and her family are doing today.
djjd62
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 05:09 pm
@dlowan,
one would hope they would be as well as can be expected
dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 3 Sep, 2009 02:08 am
@djjd62,
One would.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 3 Sep, 2009 02:11 am
@Francis,
David wrote:
Let the record indicate that u negatively criticised ME, however many years ago

Francis wrote:
Quote:
Would you be kind enough as to indicate me at what
chronological stage this extraordinary event took place?

The First chronological stage,
but the event was not extraordinary, in that at all later stages,
u continued to criticise me (usually mildly), which is perfectly OK.
I mean that sincerely, but u shoud not be much surprized
if criticism is likewise returned in your direction-- but, having said that,
in most of my posts to u over the years, I was kidding around,
and offered those posts in a spirit of humor.

So far as I can remember, I have never received any of your posts in anger.
U have never been a churlish lout, like the much abhorred* Setanta.

* but not universally abhorred; a few exceptions





David




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aidan
 
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Reply Thu 3 Sep, 2009 02:37 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
I remember your saying that,
tho we conversed on the fone b4 we went to dinner
the first time. On the fone, u remarked that I spoke
the same as I wrote in the forum.

Yes - in the way you construct your sentences and use vocabulary- definitely. I think I thought you would talk louder and more emphatically because my experience of conservatives (my father - I think I told you this too) is that when they get excited and start trying to get their point across - they start talking REALLY LOUD and banging their hands on the table and stuff like that. I always have to say to my dad- 'Dad, why are you yelling- I can hear what you're saying - you don't have to yell!' And he'll say, 'Me- I'm not yelling' - he's so excited and committed to his thought he doesn't even realize he's yelling.
I kind of expected that might happen if we started talking about politics or something.
It didn't.
Not to point fingers or be accusatory, but your persona on the forum did lead me to believe that our discussions in real life would be either about guns or politics- those leftist Kennedy's and lazy liberals - which would have been fine with me - very stimulating- but mostly we talked about movies and food and our lives.

We should get together when I'm home at Christmas - I'd like to go to that restaurant that overlooks the river you told me about.
I really do think that an interesting thread subject would be the role of rebelliousness as a personality trait in the struggle for freedom- as an individual or nation. Maybe we could discuss that.

Quote:
I believed that my use of different sizes
of font and coloration woud assist in making my posts
more easily understandable, but I got too many complaints,
with some people telling me that I was giving them headaches
and someone implied that I was contributing to his going blind,
so I have reduced my use of those devices.

That's what I mean - just a kind, thoughtful person you are.
Francis
 
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Reply Thu 3 Sep, 2009 03:48 am
David wrote:
So far as I can remember, I have never received any of your posts in anger.


Stop, David!

If you continue that way, you gonna pat me on the back.

And I don't like that...
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 3 Sep, 2009 05:21 am
@Francis,
Francis wrote:

David wrote:
So far as I can remember, I have never received any of your posts in anger.


Stop, David!

If you continue that way, you gonna pat me on the back.

And I don't like that...
Let me ask u, as a matter of earnest curiousity, Francis:
u subtly implied disapproval of my intention to have used lethal defensive force,
if I had been victim of an attempted kidnapping when I was 11, as Jaycee was.
( ". . . gun nuts . . ." etc.; "nuts" implies a dysfunctional mind.)

I am interested to know what u believe is the best response
by an 11 year old person with a healthy mind and a .38 revolver,
to such a predatory emergency; in other words,
if u had been in that situation, with your admirably healthy mind,
and IF by some strange chance u had possession of a revolver,
what do u believe that u woud have or that u shoud have done to defend yourself ?

How woud your defensive conduct have differed from mine,
if u then had the presence of mind to do it correctly, as u see it now ?





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 3 Sep, 2009 07:41 am
@aidan,
fDavid wrote:
Quote:
I remember your saying that,
tho we conversed on the fone b4 we went to dinner
the first time. On the fone, u remarked that I spoke
the same as I wrote in the forum.

Aidan wrote:
Quote:
Yes - in the way you construct your sentences and use vocabulary- definitely.
I think I thought you would talk louder and more emphatically
because my experience of conservatives (my father - I think I told you this too)
is that when they get excited and start trying to get their point across -
they start talking REALLY LOUD and banging their hands
on the table and stuff like that. I always have to say to my dad-
'Dad, why are you yelling- I can hear what you're saying -
you don't have to yell!' And he'll say, 'Me- I'm not yelling' - he's so
excited and committed to his thought he doesn't even realize he's yelling.
Maybe he felt safe n secure in his own house,
that it did not occur to him that objections woud arise ?
Its more a matter of psychology than ideology.
When I was a practicing trial attorney, I raised or lowered my
voice as an attention-getting device, for emfasis. I was not rude enuf
to disturb the other patrons of the restaurant. Additionally,
I was not endeavoring to convince u of anything.
I have not found conservatives to be characterized by those behaviors.






Aidan wrote:
Quote:
I kind of expected that might happen if we started talking about politics or something.
It didn't.
(Using line breaks David-style ?)
In my childhood, my rhetoric was less governed by wisdom,
with the result of my imposing some of my interests upon others.
In my adulthood, I knew enuf to choose my audience with care,
such as not to bore it with unwelcome considerations at dinner.




Aidan wrote:
Quote:
Not to point fingers or be accusatory, but your persona on the forum
did lead me to believe that our discussions in real life would be
either about guns or politics- those leftist Kennedy's and
lazy liberals [I wish the liberals were a lot lazier.] - which would
have been fine with me - very stimulating- but mostly we talked about movies and food and our lives.
Its a gentleman 's responsibility to see to it
that a lady has a pleasant evening. I did not have the sense that
u wished to discuss guns. I have had it happen that a libertarian girl
desired to defensively arm herself and inquired into the pertinent legalities
and practicalities (e.g., a revolver v. an automatic), but I sensed
that u did not wish to go in that direction of inquiry.


Aidan wrote:
Quote:
We should get together when I'm home at Christmas -
I'd like to go to that restaurant that overlooks the river you told me about.
I really do think that an interesting thread subject would be
the role of rebelliousness as a personality trait in the struggle
for freedom- as an individual or nation. Maybe we could discuss that.
Yes; The Water Club?
It has good seafood n "Mashed Potatos O'Keefe"; pretty good. Decent desserts.
Its decor is the East River and its aquatic traffic, best seen at nite.
It only accepts reservations a few days b4 the event.
Call me when u get to America.



David wrote:
Quote:
I believed that my use of different sizes
of font and coloration woud assist in making my posts
more easily understandable, but I got too many complaints,
with some people telling me that I was giving them headaches
and someone implied that I was contributing to his going blind,
so I have reduced my use of those devices.

Aidan wrote:
Quote:
That's what I mean - just a kind, thoughtful person you are.
U r too kind.





David
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 3 Sep, 2009 08:04 am
"Child abduction victim found after 18 years in captivity"
David says "Its a gentleman 's responsibility to see to it
that a lady has a pleasant evening."
aidan
 
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Reply Thu 3 Sep, 2009 08:22 am
@dyslexia,
That was my fault. I'll take responsibility for that. But the conversation was changed three pages ago when three people decided to turn the subject from Jaycee and onto Aidan.
I figured - if they can do it - so can I. Maybe David figured the same.


Sorry .
dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 3 Sep, 2009 08:25 am
@aidan,
yeah maybe so, frankly I don't give a rat's ass re your credibility or davids theory of socially appropriate behavior. the universe is bigger than both of you, get over it.
Francis
 
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Reply Thu 3 Sep, 2009 09:11 am
Aidan wrote:
I'll take responsibility for that. But the conversation was changed three pages ago when three people decided to turn the subject from Jaycee and onto Aidan
.
Careful Aidan, you are showing your true nature, and it's not pretty..
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 3 Sep, 2009 09:42 am
@Francis,

Will u reveal your opinions,
in response to my questions ?
Francis
 
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Reply Thu 3 Sep, 2009 09:49 am
@OmSigDAVID,
I will, David.

On my own schedule...
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 3 Sep, 2009 10:02 am
@Francis,

Thank u, Francis
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