Child abduction victim found after 18 years in captivity

Careful Aidan, you are showing your true nature, and it's not pretty..

Re: aidan (Post 3749069)
yeah maybe so, frankly I don't give a rat's ass re your credibility or davids theory of socially appropriate behavior. the universe is bigger than both of you, get over it.

Francis wrote:

Careful Aidan, you are showing your true nature, and it's not pretty..

as you continue to show yours

Ever since I was told that you were 'on my trail, consistently and for a long time ' - frankly you speaking to me has been making me very uncomfortable.

Let me ask u, as a matter of earnest curiousity, Francis:

u subtly implied disapproval of my intention to have used lethal defensive force,
if I had been victim of an attempted kidnapping when I was 11, as Jaycee was.

( ". . . gun nuts . . ." etc.; "nuts" implies a dysfunctional mind.)

I am interested to know what u believe is the best response
by an 11 year old person with a healthy mind and a .38 revolver,
to such a predatory emergency; in other words,
if u had been in that situation, with your admirably healthy mind what do u believe that u woud have or that u shoud have done to defend yourself ?
How woud your defensive conduct have differed from mine,
if u then had the presence of mind to do it correctly, as u see it now ?

Let me ask u, as a matter of earnest curiousity, Francis:

Earnestly, I don't believe for a second you're being earnest in your curiosity.

Your oratorical precautions reveal your ulterior motives.

You just want to prove the superiority of your views.

u subtly implied disapproval of my intention to have used lethal defensive force,
if I had been victim of an attempted kidnapping when I was 11, as Jaycee was.

I strongly disapprove the usage of arms at times of peace.
In your opinion, is an attempted kidnapping a time of peace? yes or no?

I'm not going to deploy the arguments against personal weapons,
as you know them well but you'll be unable to acknowlege it.

It suffices to say that a kid that kills another human being,
will probably carry all his life as many psychological problems as the one who has been abused.

( ". . . gun nuts . . ." etc.; "nuts" implies a dysfunctional mind.)

I does, indeed, David.
A solid introspection, backed by a fine analysis of the pros and cons,
in the light what civilisations are called to become, should lead you to
abandon such old warriors concepts as the the necessity to bear arms.

I am interested to know what u believe is the best response
by an 11 year old person with a healthy mind and a .38 revolver,
to such a predatory emergency; in other words,
if u had been in that situation, with your admirably healthy mind
what do u believe that u woud have or that u shoud have done to defend yourself ?
How woud your defensive conduct have differed from mine,
if u then had the presence of mind to do it correctly, as u see it now ?

I really don't know, David.

Your hypothesis is by far unusual. I've not heard that a kid, armed with a revolver, killed, injured or even dissuade a potential kidnapper.

However,I could have been tempted, against the formal advice given by the authorities and the pedo-psychiatrists, to use the gun.

What would be then my fate if,(hypothetical situation) I killed a passing-by pregnant mother with a lost bullet.

However, your tongue-in-cheek comment about the admirability of my mind speaks volumes on how lightly you'll take my opinions.

Responding to Francis, aidan wrote:

Ever since I was told that you were 'on my trail, consistently and for a long time ' - frankly you speaking to me has been making me very uncomfortable.

Quote:

Who do you think you're fooling? If you were truly the victim of a vicious stalker, I would have sympathy for you. But it is clear that you're simply a drama queen with an overly-inflated ego. You have relished every moment that the topic of this thread has been derailed while you have hogged page after page focusing on yourself. Get over yourself.

Debra, your analysis of the situation is terrible-- most unjust.
U blame the victim, who was subjected to unprovoked attack and besmirchment.
Shame on U!





David

And they all fly in the face of the evidence that having a gun in the home actually makes one less safe.

In your opinion, is an attempted kidnapping a time of peace? yes or no?

I wish aidan and david would start a thread of their own and let the original topic carry on. This is bullshit.

the david and aidan appreciation society thread

David wrote:

In your opinion, is an attempted kidnapping a time of peace? yes or no?

All times, except civil war and warfare between nations, are times of peace...

Still, there have been encouraging signs the healing has begun. Dugard's reunion with her mother, Terry Probyn, has been "the happiest time of her life, and they are bonding," says Carl, who split with his wife amid the stress of his stepdaughter's kidnapping