@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
DrewDad wrote:
And they all fly in the face of the evidence that having a gun in the home actually makes one less safe.
That 's
NONSENSE.
http://www.guninformation.org/
Quote:MYTH: Keeping guns in the home increases personal protection.
TRUTH: Obviously, self defense is not a good argument against gun control since those who own firearms are actually more likely to be victims of homicide. Two studies published in The New England Journal of Medicine revealed that keeping a gun in the home increases the risk of both suicide and homicide. Keeping a gun in the home makes it 2.7 times more likely that someone will be a victim of homicide in your home (in almost all cases the victim is either related to or intimately acquainted with the murderer) (source) and 4.8 times more likely that someone will commit suicide (source). Guns make it more likely that a suicide attempt will be successful than if other means were used such as sleeping pills.
http://www.bradycampaign.org/issues/gvstats/firearmoverview/
Quote: Guns in the Home - A Greater Risk to Family and Friends
* For every time a gun is used in a home in a legally-justifiable shooting [note that not every self-defense is legally justifiable] there are 22 criminal, unintentional, and suicide-related shootings.16
* The presence of a gun in the home triples the risk of homicide in the home.17
* The presence of a gun in the home increases the risk of suicide fivefold.18
DrewDad: there is
so much to be said in furtherance of this debate that,
in justice we cannot do it on this thread, without hi jacking this thread
off of its topic. Robert Gentel has requested me to be thoughtful.
If u wish to discuss this topic of the wisdom of being armed in self defense,
then I propose that we begin a thread to do so,
thus to avoid objection.
I will start that thread in a few moments.
I have not discussed this topic much since June of 2008,
when the USSC gave me what I expected and desired.
If u choose not to discuss the topic on that thread,
then let it suffice for me to say that the sources that u cited
are not worthy of credence (
Brady Campaign and some unidentified
fellow whose website is fraudulent). Its like proving that communism
and nazism are good and freedom is bad by citing to quotes from Joseph Stalin, Mao and Joseph Goebbels.
As to the
very respectable New England Journal of Medicine,
there was a
scandal there about junk science,
charlatan techniques
having been applied for gathering of statistics, the objection
having been raised that if those bad techniques were accepted
without objection, then
REAL statistics about diseases
woud be put in jeopardy if error is allowed to pollute their system.
Accordingly,
in the fullness of sincerity, I reject your sources
as being permeated with lies, distortions, and hoaxes.
Arguing that u are safer from crime
without defensive guns
is like arguing that when sailing u are less likely to drown
if u go
without life preservers and if u make holes in the bottom of your boat.
I 'll now go and start the aforesaid thread.
David