so apparantly, we can't really have a discussion on this, right?
of Course you can't put a number on it, because as I've repeatedly said, we all have different ideas.
However, if people are to have a discussion about anything, there needs to be some sort of parameters so there is some sort of understanding.
Would you like to talk about fruit?
Oh, I don't know....citrus, berries, tropical, high sugar, low fiber, tart, sweet, bitter, raw or cooked, fruits that are really vegetables, vegetables that are really fruit?
Here, I'll talk about durian and you talk about peaches, and we'll just keep repeating over and over to each other that that's what we personally mean by fruit, so we have no common denominator for discussion.