Birthers

...My sister was also born in Hawaii, and she also has a "certificate of Live Birth", just like Obama has....

It is my contention that saying 'Obama wasn't born in America' is slang for 'he's a nigger.' It's a code word for things which are unacceptable to say. And it's highly embarrassing for us as a nation, that such a large part of our population is buying into this idiocy.

No surprise that this attitude is most prevalent in the area of America which historically had the worst problems with racism; and it's equally unsurprising that the South continues to wane as a political force in American politics, given their failure to adjust to the changing face of our country.

I think it's slang for he's an intellectual liberal Democrat. I'm not saying all is rosy in race land, but these same people never started a campaign against conservative blacks like Condaleeza Rice.

Well, everyone is welcome to their own opinion, I guess.

But I know a good code word when I see's one.

I think it's slang for he's an intellectual liberal Democrat. I'm not saying all is rosy in race land, but these same people never started a campaign against conservative blacks like Condaleeza Rice.

Edit: But yeah, it probably is a "code word" aimed at a racist or xenophobic angle for some people. You just haven't established how much of that there is versus plain partisan hacks.

According to Del Ali of Research 2000, if you excluded those people from the poll"if you look only at white voters in the South"the number of people who doubt Obama’s citizenship is higher than the 47 percent figure that has grabbed headlines today. "There was no deviation in the number of black, Hispanic, and other voters from one region of the country to another," Ali told TWI. In the South, like everywhere else, the vast majority of non-white voters said that Obama was born in the United States; 97 percent of black voters, 87 percent of Hispanic voters, and 88 percent of other minorities. The extremely low overall percentage? That’s due to white Southerners, who dragged down the average with an extremely high level of doubt about Obama.

So what proportion of Southern whites doubt that Obama is an American citizen? While Ali did not release the racial breakdowns for the the South, and cautioned that the margin of error in the smaller sample of 720 people would be larger than the national margin of error (2 percent), the percent of white Southern voters may be higher than 70 percent. More than 30 percent of the people polled in the South were non-white, and very few of them told pollsters that they had questions about Obama’s citizenship. In order for white voters to drive the South’s "don’t know" number to 30 percent and it’s "born outside the United States" number to 23 percent, as many as three-quarters of Southern whites told pollsters that they didn’t know where Obama was born.

This is a partisan, not racist, attack.

I also happen to have a lot of personal experience living in the South, and - though you can discount it as anecdotal evidence all you like - this sort of thing isn't surprising, given what I've witnessed throughout my life. It goes beyond a partisan divide.

This whole thing is nonsense.
My sister was also born in Hawaii, and she also has a "certificate of Live Birth", just like Obama has.
It has allowed her to get a passport, to get a govt job, and to enjoy every other benefit of being a citizen.

It's not just about winning elections. That's a lesson the Republicans still need to learn.

Well, everyone is welcome to their own opinion, I guess.

But I know a good code word when I see's one.

Cycloptichorn

The world is not one dimensional.

I also happen to have a lot of personal experience living in the South, and - though you can discount it as anecdotal evidence all you like - this sort of thing isn't surprising, given what I've witnessed throughout my life. It goes beyond a partisan divide.