@farmerman,
Quote: ( I expect a lot of ad hominem invective. )
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farmerman wrote:
Quote:Not from me. My conservative side just does not include
the doctrine of universal armament.
Otherwise I can celebrate diversity of opinion.
Its a choice between fundamentally different cultural mindsets:
one is
Individualism, replete with
freedom and very stingy
in granting authority to the collective or to its henchman, government.
The other is reliance (ala Kitty Genovese and Reginald Denny)
upon security from the collective,
subordinating the rights of the Individual thereto.
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LAst time we discussed machine guns, it was in the context of
what to do about letting little nine year old kids blow their heads
off at a full-auto shooting booth.
Note that there was a picture of other children firing there also,
none of whom was injured.
Its a question of proper training beforehand,
to wit: he shoud not bend his elbows.
Thay shoud have advised him to begin experiencing it on semi-automatic.
Its the same as not drowning while learning to swim,
not falling off while learning to ride a bike
and not crashing into something while learning to drive a car,
or not getting hit, while learning how to cross the street.
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DID the founding fathers envision 1000 rounds a minute
(or even worse, a chain gun with 3000 rounds a minute).
Only in the sense that thay were aware of scientific, technological progress
as applied to most everything, but bear in mind that thay were very outspoken
on the point that the citizens woud be able to overthrow the government,
as thay had just finished doing. Indeed, thay explicitly argued that
in 2 of the essays of the Federalist Papers, and in that spirit,
the First Congress capped the maximum size of the US Army
at 840 men. (Congress subsequently changed its mind about that cap.)
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I recently fired a Barrett 50 cal and am suitably impressed with its capability for reaching out
and touching something more than a mile away. You keep your spray and pray armaments.
Give me a high muzzle velocity and good optics.
WoW !
How did that feel? I hope your shoulder is intact.
Thay shoud build some shock absorbers into that thing.
I have never fired a .50 caliber rifle nor .50 handgun.
.44 magnum handgun is the most power I 've used.
How good were the optics? What power?
Hit the target?