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Ragman
 
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Reply Fri 6 Apr, 2012 01:10 pm
@Rockhead,
FWIW, the present day salary figure I see for Vern Wells has him at a $21M/yr contract tieing him for 9th Red Sawx Gonzalez:

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/salaries/top50

They have listed in 2nd place Mets lefty starting pitcher Johan Santana at $24M.

Right behind him is Twinkies catcher Joe Mauer at $23M per year.

Who knows about bonus and others incentives and what-not.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Fri 6 Apr, 2012 01:13 pm
@Ragman,
"A-Rod was followed on the money list by the Angels’ Vernon Wells at $24.6 million, followed by Yankees pitcher CC Sabathia ($24.3 million), returning Mets ace Johan Santana ($23.15 million) and Yankees first baseman Mark Teixeira ($23.13 million). Fielder’s deal with Detroit placed him in a tie for sixth with Minnesota’s Joe Mauer at $23 million."

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-majorleaguesalaries

(The AP’s figures include salaries and prorated shares of signing bonuses and other guaranteed income. For some players, parts of deferred signing bonuses and salaries are discounted to reflect current values.)
Ragman
 
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Reply Fri 6 Apr, 2012 01:30 pm
@Rockhead,
OK... Thanks for clearing that up. There's the difference..those bonuses.
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Fri 6 Apr, 2012 01:33 pm
@Ragman,
Santana makes almost as good a case against the $$$ as Vern.

I'd cringe every time he threw if I was paying that wage...
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2012 09:02 am

ozzie being ozzie...

Quote:
Guillen suspended five games

The Miami Marlins have suspended manager Ozzie Guillen for five games for comments he made
in which he expressed admiration for Cuban leader Fidel Castro.

"The Marlins acknowledge the seriousness of the comments attributed to Guillen," the team said
in a prepared statement announcing the move. "The pain and suffering caused by Fidel Castro
cannot be minimized especially in a community filled with victims of the dictatorship."

Speaking in Spanish on Tuesday morning in Miami, Guillen apologized to the city, its Cuban-American
community and all Latin Americans for the comments, which were published on Time magazine's
website last week.

"I feel like I betrayed my Latin community," Guillen said, according to ESPN's translation of his
comments in Spanish. "I am here to say I am sorry with my heart in my hands and I want to say I'm
sorry to all those people who are hurt indirectly or directly."

"I'm sorry for what I said and for putting people in a position they don't need to be in. And for all
the Cuban families, I'm sorry," he said, according to ESPN's translation. "I hope that when I get out
of here, they will understand who Ozzie Guillen is. How I feel for them. And how I feel about the
Fidel Castro dictatorship. I'm here to face you, person to person. It's going to be a very difficult time
for me."

Major League Baseball was reviewing the situation, a source told ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney.

Guillen told Time magazine for an article published last week that he loves Castro and respects him
for staying in power for so long.

A Cuban-American advocacy group in Miami, Vigilia Mambisa, said it would boycott and demonstrate
against Guillen until the Marlins fire him.

After the comment was published, the Marlins subsequently issued a statement clarifying that the
organization has no respect for Castro, calling him "a brutal dictator who has caused unthinkable
pain for more than 50 years."

It's not the first time that Guillen has praised Castro publicly. In a Men's Journal interview in 2008,
Guillen was asked to name the toughest man he knows.

"Fidel Castro," he said. "He's a bull---- dictator and everybody's against him, and he still survives, has
power. Still has a country behind him. Everywhere he goes they roll out the red carpet. I don't admire
his philosophy. I admire him."

Guillen, who is from Venezuela but became a United States citizen in 2006, also praised controversial
Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez in 2005. He had appeared on the leader's radio show twice and when
asked about it, he said: "Not too many people like the president. I do."
(espn)
joefromchicago
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2012 09:45 am
@Region Philbis,
That's just Ozzie being Ozzie. We're used to it in Chicago.
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2012 11:51 am
The Cuban-American community is incredibly intolerant.
Ozzie is incredibly stupid.
Money is incredibly powerful.
Shame to all sides!
joefromchicago
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2012 01:15 pm
@fbaezer,
Can't argue with any of that.
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Ragman
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2012 04:06 pm
@fbaezer,
That is the world's record for self-destruction and inappropriate comments! What was it...3 days into the regular season? After his 5-day suspension will he then grow a brain? Ozzie what city are you in now? It's Miami ! You're not in Chicago anymore.

After 2 press conferences, he still hasn't got it right! He has today that what happened was that he was thinking in Spanish and got the English words wrong! Crisakes! Oh...is that all? That's explains it, Ozzie!
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2012 03:50 pm

damon hooks on with the tribe...
Ragman
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2012 06:05 am
@Region Philbis,
He gets $1.25 m or so plus maybe more with some decent bonuses for games played. Cleveland NEEDS someone who can gets hits and drive 'em in. I think he hit around .260-ish last yr with some decent playing time for Rays. However, he's 277 hits away from hitting the 3000-hit-plateau. Think maybe he can stick it out 2 yrs?
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2012 06:19 am
@Ragman,

yeah, he'll get his 3000.
he proved me wrong in '06 -- i thought he was past his prime... Embarrassed
djjd62
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2012 06:21 am
@Region Philbis,
Region Philbis wrote:
damon hooks on with the tribe...


matt?
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2012 06:22 am
@djjd62,

no, mitt...
Ragman
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2012 06:23 am
@Region Philbis,
Mutt!
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Ragman
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2012 06:25 am
@Region Philbis,
Thanks for that info. Ozzie's no wizard. I had no idea he spoke about Chavez so glowingly also.
fbaezer
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2012 01:23 pm
@Ragman,
And none of you ever heard Magglio Ordoñez.
That's a chauvinist Chavista!
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2012 02:21 pm
@Region Philbis,
and he'll be most famous as the only member of the 3,000 hit club that doesn't go to the hall.

I like Johnny, but his best skill has been his longevity...
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2012 04:30 pm
@Rockhead,

... how can they not let him in with 3000 base-knocks?

check the stats.
he'll have 400+ steals, ~1700 runs scored, a lifetime .280-something average...
Ragman
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2012 04:59 pm
@Region Philbis,
I think because he often was 3rd or 4th best hitter on his teams (Red Sawx and NYY) and he pl;ayedf in an era where sterouid was rampant..so his numbers get compared to those who cheated using steroids even though he may not have cheated.
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