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@Rockhead,

If he did reject a possible trade then he doesn't have a right to complain when the year will inevitably turn sour. Well he and Manny will get a taste in the inevitable cellar dwelling Rays team this year.

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@tsarstepan,

he had his chance, and blew it...

Quote:

Detroit Tigers outfielder Johnny Damon confirmed to reporters Monday (8/23/10) that he has been claimed on waivers
by the Red Sox and that he has until Wednesday to decide whether he will waive his no-trade clause to return to Fenway Park.

"My teammates are making this decision easier by saying they want me to stay," Damon said after Monday's 12-3 win over
Kansas City. "My gut and everything else tells me that Detroit's the place for me."

(espn)

tsar wrote:

the inevitable cellar dwelling Rays team this year.

i think the rays have enough talent to finish ahead of bawllymore and tranna...

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Pettitte Hang's 'em Up
240 wins, plus another 19 in the postseason.
i'd say he'd be a HOF shoe-in were it not for HGH.
the fact that he admitted it might help to sway the voters...

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Young and Texas headed for messy divorce

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Texas Rangers veteran Michael Young said he asked for a trade because he's been "misled and manipulated on different occasions."

"I'm tired of it," Young said.

The 34-year-old spoke out Monday night after general manager Jon Daniels and club president Nolan Ryan talked with the media and said they will try to accommodate Young's wish to play in the field every day for another team.

Young said he expects a trade to take place but isn't sure when that might occur.

"I think it's important to address what I think is kind of an inaccurate portrayal," Young said. "The suggestion from the team that I've had a change of heart and that's why I asked for a trade is a manipulation of the truth in my mind."

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@Region Philbis,

Region Philbis wrote:

Pettitte Hang's 'em Up
240 wins, plus another 19 in the postseason.
i'd say he'd be a HOF shoe-in were it not for HGH.
the fact that he admitted it might help to sway the voters...

Andy Pettite's stats are comparable to Juan Marichal's. It took Marichal three tries to get into the HOF, so I wouldn't say that Pettite is a shoe-in, but his numbers are sufficient. The drug issue, though, will hurt his chances.

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@joefromchicago,

agreed.
from what i've read, though, he'd need 15-20 more W's to qualify stat-wise...

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@Region Philbis,

Well, at 240, he has more wins than 30 pitchers currently in the Hall of Fame, including Sandy Koufax, Don Drysdale, Whitey Ford, and even your favorite, Dennis Eckersley. His winning percentage of .635 is better than all but 12 HOF pitchers. Pettite's worst stat is his career ERA, which, at 3.88, is pretty high, even for the era in which he pitched. Furthermore, he never won the Cy Young award and only once led the league in wins (in 1996, when he came in second to Pat Hentgen in Cy Young voting). He was a solid pitcher who benefitted greatly from being on good teams throughout most of his career. That should be enough.

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@joefromchicago,

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/newsstand/discussion/sheehan_modern_era_of_baseball_demands_cooperstown_find_place_for_pettitte/P100/

hmmmm.

my personal thoughts are this.

he's a nice guy. but he was never dominant.

he is more of a testament to the yankee style of play than anything else. he could go 7 or 8 innings, and not get roughed up too badly most of the time.

then there is the HGH thing.

admitting it may keep him out, unless the voters change their way of thinking rather dramatically.

interesting...

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@Rockhead,

Yeah, the drugs thing is the only reason to keep Pettite out. But, like I said, his stats are pretty close to those of Juan Marichal, and Marichal tried to decapitate Johnny Roseboro, so it's clear that a clean rap sheet isn't a prerequisite to admittance into the Hall.

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last minute obit.

Chuck Tanner died today.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-obit-tanner

"He’ll be noted in the record book, too, for a most smashing debut in the majors: Playing for the Milwaukee Braves in 1955, he homered on the first pitch he saw as a big leaguer."

RIP Chuck.

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"Tanner was coveted by the Pirates, and the team made one of the few trades involving a manager in major league history to obtain Tanner’s contract. Pittsburgh sent All-Star catcher Manny Sanguillen and cash to the A’s for Tanner."

cool. I did not know that...

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Posada says not so fast on Pettitte.
i could definitely see him making a comeback in august if NYY feels they need an extra starter...

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Griffey's back...

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Arnr4Lc7WIjeKrlkNqaq83cRvLYF?slug=ap-mariners-griffeyreturns

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ummm.

I think Mr Carbrera might have a problem...

"The 27-year-old Cabrera was spotted by a deputy in a car with a smoking engine alongside a road in Fort Pierce. Inside the vehicle, Cabrera smelled of alcohol, had slurred speech and took a swig from a bottle of scotch in front of a deputy, according to the St. Lucie County Sheriff’s Office. He refused to cooperate and more deputies were called to the scene."

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-tigers-cabrera

I feel bad for Jim Leyland

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@Rockhead,

< nods head disapprovingly >

back to square one...

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Justine Siegal becomes first woman to pitch MLB batting practice

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Siegal, 36, was the first woman to coach first base in men's professional baseball for the Brockton (Mass.) Rox, an independent league team, in 2009. She spent three years as the only female college baseball coach in the country, when she was an assistant coach at Springfield College (Mass.) from 2007-10.

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@Region Philbis,

DO you think that this will be the rolling boulder that will eventually lead to women playing in the Major Leagues sometime in the next few years?

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@tsarstepan,

it's a publicity stunt.

some old grizzled pitching coach normally throws BP.

she was prolly a lot better scenery...

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new Cubbies guy, Mike Quade.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2011/columns/story?columnist=bryant_howard&id=6141350

how long before they hate him...?

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@Rockhead,

Yeah it does have that publicity stunt feel to it. Just thinking that certain unintended consequences from this might lead to that possible future.

I wouldn't think that Justine Siegal would be the one pitching in the Major Leagues or anything. What MLB needs is another P.T. Barnumesque Branch Rickey to manage a MLB team and start his wild and crazy marketing antics in order to revive baseball in the cities which are the usual big baseball market suspects.

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