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Fat Lady Sings At Last: Franken is Senator of Minnessota!

 
 
Thomas
 
Reply Tue 30 Jun, 2009 01:05 pm
Wohooo, is all I have to say.
 
sozobe
 
  1  
Reply Tue 30 Jun, 2009 01:10 pm
@Thomas,
Dys says he's amazed:

http://able2know.org/topic/133754-1

I'm happy. Stupid Norm.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 30 Jun, 2009 01:20 pm
@Thomas,
He reminds me of Garrison Keilhors little brother. I hope he doesnt lose interest, or when he gets seated, Id like his humor to be retained.
Course the Senate is one big rich source of material for the humor professional.
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H2O MAN
 
  -4  
Reply Tue 30 Jun, 2009 06:24 pm
@Thomas,
Thomas wrote:

Wohooo, is all I have to say.




http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/images/2008/09/21/alfrankendiapers.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/angandy/uglydog.jpg
farmerman
 
  1  
Reply Tue 30 Jun, 2009 07:17 pm
@H2O MAN,
Waterboys high school portrait.   http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/angandy/uglydog.jpg
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H2O MAN
 
  -3  
Reply Tue 30 Jun, 2009 07:21 pm


famergirl's HS PROM DATE and Current LOVER.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/images/2008/09/21/alfrankendiapers.jpg
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jul, 2009 08:18 am
Oops, I thought I was in the political thread.

Oh, wait, I am.
farmerman
 
  1  
Reply Wed 1 Jul, 2009 09:39 am
@Intrepid,
sit down, make yourself at home. We will begin eviscerating you in amoment.
Intrepid
 
  1  
Reply Wed 1 Jul, 2009 10:21 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

sit down, make yourself at home. We will begin eviscerating you in amoment.



Yup, I am in the political thread for sure. Or, wait, it could be the religious thread. Either way, eviscercation is expected. Razz
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jul, 2009 11:58 am
I had several friends in MN who were apart of his campaign staff. Celebrations all around.

T
K
O
H2O MAN
 
  1  
Reply Wed 1 Jul, 2009 12:25 pm
@Diest TKO,


Elections have consequences.
Gargamel
 
  3  
Reply Wed 1 Jul, 2009 12:29 pm
@H2O MAN,
Yes: Democrats take office afterward.

Or at least this seems to be the trend of late.
H2O MAN
 
  1  
Reply Wed 1 Jul, 2009 12:35 pm
@Gargamel,


Consequences that have yet to be felt...
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Diest TKO
 
  1  
Reply Wed 1 Jul, 2009 12:47 pm
@H2O MAN,
They have losers too. Deal with it, crybaby.
K
O
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jul, 2009 12:49 pm
I sure hope you guys remember this next time an election is stolen by a Republican.
Diest TKO
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jul, 2009 12:56 pm
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:

I sure hope you guys remember this next time an election is stolen by a Republican.

Dude. Seriously. Gore's loss was harder to deal with than any loss that GOP has faced. GWB still had more cooperation at 7 months from Dems. Don't front.

I have no delusion that once again we will have republican leadership in many offices in our government. No doubt that majority will once again move to the right, but the roster will change. Just like it has every time. This crybabying about Obama or Franken is ridiculous.

The waterboy comes in here and tells us about inevitable consequences of a man who hasn't even been in office long enough to put his family photo up, and WE need to remember something?

This reactionary crybabying is absurd.
K
O
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jul, 2009 04:07 pm
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:

I sure hope you guys remember this next time an election is stolen by a Republican.

Are you suggesting that Franken "stole" the Minnesota senatorial election? How did he do that?
Thomas
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jul, 2009 05:12 pm
@joefromchicago,
That's an interesting question, joefromchicago. How did he, McGentrix?
Debra Law
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jul, 2009 05:29 pm
@joefromchicago,
joefromchicago wrote:

McGentrix wrote:

I sure hope you guys remember this next time an election is stolen by a Republican.

Are you suggesting that Franken "stole" the Minnesota senatorial election? How did he do that?


I think his statement suggests that Republicans steal elections all the time, so sure enough, there will be a next time, and a next time into perpetuity.
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Yankee
 
  1  
Reply Thu 2 Jul, 2009 06:19 am
@Thomas,
Tuesday's Minnesota Supreme Court decision in Coleman v. Franken was consistent with Minnesota election law. To put it in terms that baseball fans may appreciate, the court ruled that you can't argue balls and strikes.

By that, I mean the court determined under existing Minnesota law that the absentee ballot decisions of local elections officials and election night judges would have to stand. The justices reaffirmed a long history, dating back well over a century, of how elections are administered in this state.

The court and the Legislature have always understood that any human endeavor will be imperfect. That is a hard lesson for anyone to accept. But it is a necessary reality when human beings are involved in any enterprise.

On most summer nights in this country, there are 15 Major League Baseball games being played, and 15 separate umpires behind home plate making the calls. The rules in baseball are the same, but the application of those rules will vary from ballpark to ballpark, because of who is behind the plate. And on any given night, there will be 15 different strike zones.

Yet baseball, perhaps our most uniform and calibrated sport, with a statistic percentage or average for every conceivable action, is in fact an imperfect human endeavor. The record books will reflect balls and strikes, hits and outs, but on any given night there can be subtle and important variations in those calls.

Minnesota has more than 4,000 precincts, tens of thousands of election judges, and more than 100 separate election administrators in our 87 counties and scores of cities that run statewide elections.

On Election Day, all of those administrators and judges did their best. They made calls on absentee ballots and counted the vast majority of those ballots.

Some of these ballots did not meet the strict standards of the law, but they were counted anyway because a judge let them in the ballot pile. Significantly, the court found that Coleman offered no proof of a pattern of unfair counting; it's just what happens.

After the election, a second round of counting occurred. The State Canvassing Board allowed some additional absentee ballots to be brought in. By agreement of the parties, 933 such absentee ballots were counted. A third counting happened at the trial court.

At each of these stages, the Supreme Court affirmed the decisions. Cumulatively, this resulted in the 312-vote win for Al Franken.

It's an imperfect world, and people make mistakes. The Supreme Court made an important point -- there were no allegations of fraud in this case. Absent fraud, we are dealing with people.

While I have watched plenty of baseball games and have seen umpires make absolutely outrageous calls, I have learned that it is part of the sport, and that to change the practice would destroy a game that we have all come to love. I've also learned that bad calls almost always even themselves out.

Al Franken's term will pass much more quickly than we all can imagine. Life will go on in this state and the country. We need good public servants to do these jobs. But the most important thing is to have someone doing the jobs.

Brian F. Rice is an attorney in Minneapolis. He has been involved in 15 election recounts and four election contests, two of which went to the state Supreme Court.

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/07/01/rice/

Maybe not fraud, but a fairly sloppy election according to the above.
 

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