SHUD THE CAPTAIN BE RANSOMED FROM PIRATES ?

If we CAPTURE them,
then thay shoud be returned to their rightful owners.

If we DON 'T capture them,
the owners r no worse off if we sink them.





David

spellcheck is out friend

thay, no, they, yes

r, no, are, yes

David, in your "logical", "phonetic" spelling system, if "shud" and "wud" are supposed to be what the rest of the English-speaking world spells "should" and "would", then logically "could" would be spelled "cud". How do you propose to differentiate "cud" from "cud", which cows chew? And how do you propose to spell "dud", "bud", and "Elmer Fudd" to be consistent?

How about Dave's "we" usage? That's super phonetic.

Maybe we need a more intense anti-piratical naval presence in the general area.

Maybe commercial shipping needs small superfast n heavily armed private escort vessels.



David

That might actually not be a bad idea, but VERY expensive and given the volume of shipping you'd need hundreds, perhaps thousands of escort vessels, and I don't think anyone has that infrastructure or the means to support a fleet of that size.

Actually Jack "shud" is a bit long winded. Darwin's correspondents, especially Harriet, used "sh" with a little "d" in the position a number power is located. She used "esp." too rather that "especially". And that's 150 years ago.

She was an early feminist and thus a big fan of Charlie. Well-she would be wouldn't she?

the 18th and 19th centuries (and for that matter everyone down the centuries who had to write it out in longhand) had all sorts of cool abbreviations, since they didn't have keyboards. Same with kids who are limited to 160 characters and have to use their thumbs to text.

"MontereyJack" wrote:

I try to be logical, but I don 't pretend that MY humble efforts
shoud be the final polished product. We need fonetic lexicografers
to write new dictionaries, after careful n meticulous analysis.
I 'm just a guy, trying to make a modest effort to improve
some of the more blatant anti-logical practices, like jamming an L
into woud, coud or shoud. I used to spell those words "wud, cud or shud"
(for simplicity & fewer keystrokes) but I got so many complaints
that I decided to reinstate the o; my only strong objection
was to the L because it is in no way helpful.
Note that some silent letters r helpful as pronunciation guides,
like the last letter of Rome.




Some words r called "homofones" like:
rose (the flower) and rose (the past tense of "rise").
Have u objected to those before ?
Maybe the fonetic lexicografers will add a double d to one of them? Cudd ?





I have to respect the spelling of proper nouns; people 's names.

In some instances, I defer to established non-fonetic usage,
to avoid confusion, e.g.: I do not claim that the opposite of left
shoud be "rite" because that already means a ceremony,
and I have no wish to make trouble where there was none before.

I am 100% confident that my way will prevail
because Man is tiring of carrying the useless wate of silent letters
that r not pronunciation guides, like adding UGH to the word tho.

No one is better off from spelling the word enuf "enough".
People texting r helping by demonstrating the wasteful futility
of unnecessary letters; Man will lay that burden down.
About 100 years ago, Teddy Roosevelt tried to promote fonetic spelling
by Executive Order to federal workers, but Congress stopped him.

His noble thoughts (thawts) r now coming to fruition.

The only reason that people give me a hard time
about fonetic spelling is that thay were instructed incorrectly, anti-logically.
Their teachers either never thawt of it,
or lacked the courage to rebel, in support of sound reasoning n efficiency.

When kids r tawt the CORRECT way to spell,
after that the problem will end.

I understand your antipathy; its the same as my annoyance
with the metric system. I LIKE the English system
because I am used to it. I don 't wanna hear about kilometers;
I wanna know MILES,
but I know that the metric system is better because it is based on 10
and the future belongs to the metric system, which I dislike.


Thanx for asking.





David

monterey wrote :



they are much like the speedboats being used by smugglers on the st. lawrence river smuggling guns , drugs and cigarettes back at forth from the U.S. to the canadian side - usually within the AKWESASNE reservation that straddles the U.S./ canadian border .
they easily outrun the boats by the U.S. and canadian coastguard and various police boats .
and even if they are caught -which rarely happens - there is usually the jurisdictional question : who is in charge - the U.S. , canada or the "band council" ?
it's been going on for at least a century and will continue on-and-on ... ...
the smugglers buy the finest and fastest speed boats available (much to the delight of the boatbuilders) and the police chases them with a 200 hp johnson outboard (or a rowboat <GRIN> ) .
hbg

according to CNN President Obama authorized the military to take whatever action deemed necessary, what a wus!

and as has been reported often of late, the US Navy is completely ill equipped to deal with Pirates, not unlike the Army was for dealing with the insurgents in Iraq. A military that has net even considered asymmetrical warfare can't just jump in and do it well.

Easy. Remember those who bitched about all the attention showered on the
pilot who ditched in the Hudson? Well, that will pale by comparison to what's
about to happen to Capt. Richard Phillips.

But, seriously, I hope there'll be no whining about it. The guy's a hero, really
and truly.

NOT necessarily.
The Navy r better experts on dealing with piracy on the hi seas
n thay r on the scene. He never claimed to be an expert on dealing with pirates on the water.





David

so far as I can tell this Capt did not needlessly endanger the lives of over 100 people and wreck his ship in the process, and then get praised as a hero because no one died. Different kettle of fish here.

reply to hbg's post on page 2 -

thanks for the background, hbg. I have a friend married to an italian whose sister married a somalian. And an eritrean friend, now in u.s. So what, some natural interest beyond the general.

I'm all for shipping not being attacked, am surely for deterrence, but I've been unclear on the pirate thing while surely for defence (not looked up background issues, money, sure, but more than that).


a moment in time - my husband and I were staring out at the piazza of San Pietro in the vatican, back in the late eighties. Guys were setting up chairs, and I remember that I was looking wondering if they were eritrean, ethiopian, somalian, etc.

One guy saw us and started railing, in italian, what are you looking at? I trust he saw peculiar tourists looking at their blackness. My husband acted innocent and I was unequal to the moment for a possible useful yelled conversation. I'm not a good yeller, but in any case, wasn't a sharp reactor.
My italian is shitty but I might have managed. Years later, I regret not trying to converse or at least sign some kind of ok-ness.
All that sounds condescending, I know. It was odd in that we'd have liked to talk and maybe the guy would have too, but no way we could have, he would probably have lost his job.

I did talk to some moroccans at a train station, while the californian wife at the table next to us was loudly warning me. I feel better about that exchange.

hi , osso !
canada took in many refugees from somalia - by 1996 55,000 somalis had been accepted in canada - no doubt more by now .
most have settled in well , and certainly in larger cities - such as toronto - have become part of our multi-faceted society .
even in our small city of about 150,000 i wouldn't be able able to tell a somali immigrant from any other of the "new canadians faces " that have come here .
i'm glad they let us in when we come and am glad that others are still coming .
many of our physicians , scientists , business people and plain "joes and marys" that came from foreign countries have made canada a better country imo .
take care !
hbg

a study by the university of ottawa :

https://www.ruor.uottawa.ca/en/handle/10393/8831?show=full

I reckon the ransom was paid and part of the deal was that the captain could look good.

Three killed? I doubt that about ransom.

splediouse.. That's a badly thought out reply..you would of been more believable if you had told us that your God or that Jesus guy fixed everything up.