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MURTHA - Navy Distinguished Public Service Award Sparks Outrage

 
 
Foxfyre
 
Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2009 10:25 pm
Who do you suppose ordered this to be done?

Quote:
Murtha Award Sparks Vet Outrage
March 26, 2009
Military.com|by Christian Lowe

In one of his last moves before leaving office March 13, then-Navy Secretary Donald Winter quietly awarded 19-term Democratic congressman John Murtha (Pa.) with the service's highest civilian honor.

Citing Murtha's "courageous leadership, vision, and loyalty to the men and women of the Department of the Navy," Winter presented the influential chairman of the House Appropriations Committee's defense panel with the Navy's Distinguished Public Service Award, an honor bestowed in "those extraordinary cases where individuals have demonstrated exceptionally outstanding service of substantial and long term benefit to the Navy, Marine Corps, or the Department of the Navy as a whole," a Murtha release stated.

The award generated little publicity when it was given to Murtha in early March, but as news of the honor trickled out, some veterans groups ignited a firestorm of protest.

Poll: Should the Navy reconsider Murtha’s award

The primary reason for their ire stems from the congressman's statements in May, 2006, that a squad of Marines who responded to an IED ambush and short firefight in Haditha, Iraq, rampaged through the village, murdering civilians "in cold blood."

Murtha made those comments in the heat of the 2006 congressional mid-term election campaign, in a move some political analysts saw as an attempt to stoke the anti-war vote for a Democratic takeover of the House. The former Marine and distinguished Vietnam veteran continued his accusations in follow-up media appearances before an official Pentagon and Naval Criminal Investigative Service investigation had been completed.

When the dust settled more than two years later, six of the eight Marines and Sailors accused of crimes in the Haditha incident had their cases dismissed, one was found not guilty and the last has been continued indefinitely.

The Navy did not respond to a request for comment on the award or the backlash from veterans groups by post time.

Murtha has refused to recant his accusations or apologize to the Marines he accused of war crimes. When asked by Military.com in late 2007 whether he regretted his initial statements and owed the exonerated Marines and Sailor an apology, Murtha refused to comment, saying the cases were still being adjudicated.

Murtha spokesman Matthew Mazonkey did not respond to a request from Military.com for a comment on the award, or the controversy surrounding it among some vet groups.

In a release shortly after the award, Murtha gushed over the prestigious honor.

"I'm proud of the service and sacrifices our troops are making, and I'm honored to receive this distinguished award from the Navy," commented Murtha. "We have an obligation to ensure that our men and women in uniform have the most modern equipment, effective training, first-class medical care, and family advocacy resources."

But one influential veterans group has reacted strongly against the award, crafting a petition to lobby the Navy to rescind it.

Vets for Freedom, a group that generally supports the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, called Murtha's award "appalling" and his accusations against the Haditha Marines "vile and despicable."

"Congressman John Murtha should apologize for slandering the Marines of [3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment], and for undermining the efforts of those servicemen and women who fought in Iraq," the online petition states. "If he does not, the Secretary of the Navy should rescind this award as a sign of his unwavering support for those who served in combat during Operation Iraqi Freedom."

So far more than 35,000 supporters have signed the online petition.

"It shows a lack of foresight from the Navy to not understand the long term effect of making Marines look like war criminals," said Vets for Freedom president Pete Hegseth, whose organization embraced the petition effort started by VFF Senior Fellow and former Marine Iraq vet Gabe Ledeen.

"I'd be surprised if the Navy stepped back and rescinded the award," Hegseth told Military.com. "But there's a chance they could conduct an internal review to see how it was awarded and why."
http://www.military.com/news/article/March-2009/murtha-award-sparks-vet-outrage.html
 
DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2009 01:06 am
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John Patrick Murtha...
...left college in 1952 out of a sense of duty to his country and joined the U.S. Marine Corp. After leaving active duty and joining the reserves, he ran a small business in Johnstown while starting a family and attending the University of Pittsburgh on the GI bill. He graduated from Pitt in 1962 with a degree in economics and did graduate work in economics and political science at Indiana University of Pennsylvania. He volunteered to serve in Vietnam from 1966-1967 where he received the Bronze Star with Combat "V", two Purple Hearts and the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry.

He served in the Pennsylvania House of Representatives from 1969 to 1974. He was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 1974, the first Vietnam War combat Veteran elected to Congress.


forget the partisan politics b.s. for a minute and show a little respect.
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2009 04:17 am
@DontTreadOnMe,
Murtha, a social conservative DEM, was always counted on by the GOP to back everything having to do with the military. In 2004 he called for withdrawal from Iraq because he didnt see any future in this war, nor any strategic plan. He interviewed several dozen soldiers on conditions of anonymity and presented his views resulting from them.
THE GOP then turned on him and began a continued vendetta. This crap is just politics as usual .
Murtha was involved in ABSCAM and was taped refusing to take a bribe and, instead, was trying to get the sting operators to "invest" their cash into coal projects in PA, activities that could return hundreds of miners to work.
GOP couldnt have picked on a wronger victim cause Murtha can deliver with the best and has earned the respect of Western PA.(his constituency). This is just another attempt to discredit his reputation by cheap tricks in time for election season.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2009 04:39 am
Yep. Politics. The dirty kind.
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2009 04:53 am
@edgarblythe,
Im sure foxy doesnt have a mean partisan bone in her body.
snood
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2009 05:43 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Im sure foxy doesnt have a mean partisan bone in her body.


Heh. Yeah. Me too. I'm sure, too.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2009 05:57 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

farmerman wrote:

Im sure foxy doesnt have a mean partisan bone in her body.


Heh. Yeah. Me too. I'm sure, too.



One really can think such, isn't it?

Besides, Murtha's office published the news on March 5, 2009 (the Navy a week earlier as announcement).

But since the right-wing blogs started this 'campaign' a few days ago, Foxfyre had to jump on the wagon...
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2009 06:54 am
Murtha is a real piece of work, but not because of what he said about the Haditha massacres.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2009 08:01 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Im sure foxy doesnt have a mean partisan bone in her body.
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snood
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2009 10:18 am
@FreeDuck,
FreeDuck wrote:

Murtha is a real piece of work, but not because of what he said about the Haditha massacres.


care to expound?
ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2009 10:23 am
@DontTreadOnMe,
DontTreadOnMe wrote:
forget the partisan politics b.s. for a minute and show a little respect.
word
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2009 10:28 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

FreeDuck wrote:

Murtha is a real piece of work, but not because of what he said about the Haditha massacres.


care to expound?

His primary function is to pump pork into a region in Pennsylvania that, frankly, would be better left to be reclaimed by the natural environment. He knows all about reciprocal back scratching.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2009 05:29 pm
@FreeDuck,
Not to mention that he's a crook (see Abscam)

He's the Lefts favorite war hero,followed closely by Kerry of Vietnam.
parados
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2009 06:02 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Not to mention that he's a crook (see Abscam)


Of course, anyone that hasn't been indicted or convicted is obviously a crook. Heck, GWBush is a crook then.
DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2009 06:03 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Im sure foxy doesnt have a mean partisan bone in her body.


well, i'm fairly sure she doesn't have a mean bone. but i wouldn't hold my breath waiting for her to vote for a democrat.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2009 06:48 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Murtha is on tape saying that he wouldnt accept any money in the ABscam sting. Then he provided evidence against 2 others who did.

Being caught in a sting and not succumbing to its proposal are two different things. I know that GOPs have problems with distingusihing what a moral compass even is.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 30 Mar, 2009 05:34 pm
@parados,

parados wrote:
Of course, anyone that hasn't been indicted or convicted is obviously a crook. Heck, GWBush is a crook then.


Yeah right.

Murtha was an unindicted co-conspirator which means the feds didn't have enough evidence to prosecute him.

Don't think Bush has ever been named as an unindicted co-conspirator, but perhaps you can inform me.

Is he a convicted criminal? No.

Is he a crook? You only have to listen to his Abscam tape to know he is.

If you want to give him a pass, so be it.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 30 Mar, 2009 05:35 pm
@farmerman,
Do you really believe the **** you are spooning?
parados
 
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Reply Mon 30 Mar, 2009 05:37 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
And if you want to give Bush a pass, so be it.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 30 Mar, 2009 05:41 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
You are the one trying to dish out **** Finnsy. Murtha is on tape declaring that he wouldnt take the 50K. He DID say that he would wait until he sees how everyone does business with the Abscammers, and then he turned in the two Congressmen who were given to him a s reps who were working with the entrapment scheme. THAT iS HISTORY NOT OPINION FINNSY. You, of course are entitled to continue disassociating yourself from the truth, but that is not my worry. Ive seen your attempts at equivocation before.
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