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Does the octuplet mother look like Angeline Jolie?

 
 
Reply Tue 10 Feb, 2009 07:18 am
She has that same look - including the lips (are they real or botoxed)?

Difference is that Jolie has Pitt and lots of money.

Both of them have the Mia Farrow Syndrome (surroound yourself with adoring children to fulfill your own selfish love needs)

Who's paying the tab for this family? Let's follow the money.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 10 Feb, 2009 10:54 am
@sullyfish6,
Ha, ha - I thought the same thing.

Lets hope she gets some great financial deals making the talk show circuit and maybe a book or movie deal. Otherwise, we the taxpayers, will be footing her bill.
boomerang
 
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Reply Tue 10 Feb, 2009 11:03 am
I too was wondering how she was paying for that many kids.

Then today's paper identified the doctor as some Beverly Hills hot-shot with an office on Rodeo Drive. Seems he developed a new technique for emplanting embryos.

Now I'm wondering if perhaps he wanted to test his technique and found someone willing to let him use her as a lab rat.

That might be worth some money.
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squinney
 
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Reply Tue 10 Feb, 2009 01:37 pm
@Linkat,
I was thinking about that. The Learning Channel has Little People.. Big World, and Jon and Kate + 8, and the Dueggers (or whatever their name is with 18 kids). She needs to get up with TLC. They could put her between Say Yes to the Dress and Toddlers & Tiaras.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 10 Feb, 2009 01:40 pm
@squinney,
Jon and Kate seem to have done well out of their deal. Trip to Disneyworld, hair implants, etc....
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Pamela Rosa
 
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Reply Wed 11 Feb, 2009 02:03 pm
@sullyfish6,
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Who's paying the tab for this family?

It takes a village.
Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 11 Feb, 2009 02:10 pm
@Pamela Rosa,
So because someone is irresponsible and has more children than they can afford or reasonably take care of herself (in an interview I saw this morning she admitted that she cannot care for them all herself) that we should have to help her?

Now I don't mind helping others when in need. However, she knowingly impregnants herself with 6 more embroys- not a mistake either, purposely having multiple additional children when you already have to get government assistance for your existing 6 children (she also admitted in the interview this morning) is irresponsible.
Green Witch
 
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Reply Wed 11 Feb, 2009 02:24 pm
@Linkat,
I think Pamela is being sarcastic.

I think this woman has some mental illness that is driving her. No sane person would chose to have 16 children without financial or emotional support. She needs help from a psychiatrist.
Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 11 Feb, 2009 02:28 pm
@Green Witch,
Her mom even says she has issues.

It may take a village, but she ain't part of my village!

Although I did feel bad for the children.
djjd62
 
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Reply Wed 11 Feb, 2009 02:35 pm
@Green Witch,
i too think there's a mental problem
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Green Witch
 
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Reply Wed 11 Feb, 2009 02:35 pm
@Linkat,
Sadly, every village has their idiot(s). The real issue is the 16 children who are the innocent victims of crazy grown-ups. I think the fertility doctor should have to support them all.
Pamela Rosa
 
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Reply Thu 12 Feb, 2009 12:21 am
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Taxpayers may have to cover octuplet mom's costs

LOS ANGELES " A big share of the financial burden of raising Nadya Suleman's 14 children could fall on the shoulders of California's taxpayers, compounding the public furor in a state already billions of dollars in the red.

Even before the 33-year-old single, unemployed mother gave birth to octuplets last month, she had been caring for her six other children with the help of $490 a month in food stamps, plus Social Security disability payments for three of the youngsters. The public aid will almost certainly be increased with the new additions to her family.

Also, the hospital where the octuplets are expected to spend seven to 12 weeks has requested reimbursement from Medi-Cal, the state's Medicaid program, for care of the premature babies, according to the Los Angeles Times. The cost has not been disclosed.

Word of the public assistance has stoked the furor over Suleman's decision to have so many children by having embryos implanted in her womb.

"It appears that, in the case of the Suleman family, raising 14 children takes not simply a village but the combined resources of the county, state and federal governments," Los Angeles Times columnist Tim Rutten wrote in Wednesday's paper. He called Suleman's story "grotesque."

On the Internet, bloggers rained insults on Suleman, calling her an "idiot," criticizing her decision to have more children when she couldn't afford the ones she had and suggesting she be sterilized.

"It's my opinion that a woman's right to reproduce should be limited to a number which the parents can pay for," Charles Murray wrote in a letter to the Los Angeles Daily News. "Why should my wife and I, as taxpayers, pay child support for 14 Suleman kids?"

She was also berated on talk radio, where listeners accused her of manipulating the system and being an irresponsible mother.

"From the outside you can tell that this woman was playing the system," host Bryan Suits said on the "Kennedy and Suits" show on KFI-AM. "You're damn right the state should step in and seize the kids and adopt them out."

Suleman's spokesman, Mike Furtney, urged understanding.

"I would just ask people to consider her situation and she has been under a tremendous amount of pressure that no one could be prepared for," Furtney said.

Furtney said he, Suleman and her family had received death threats and had been getting messages that were "disgusting things that would never be proper to put in any story."

In her only media interviews, Suleman told NBC's "Today" she doesn't consider the public assistance she receives to be welfare and doesn't intend to remain on it for long.

Also, a Nadya Suleman Family Web Site has been set up to collect donations for the children. It features pictures of the mother and each octuplet and has instructions for making donations by check or credit card.

Suleman, whose six older children range in age from 2 to 7, said three of them receive disability payments. She told NBC one is autistic, another has attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, known as ADHD, and a third experienced a mild speech delay with "tiny characteristics of autism." She refused to say how much they get in payments.

In California, a low-income family can receive Social Security payments of up to $793 a month for each disabled child. Three children would amount to $2,379.

The Suleman octuplets' medical costs have not been disclosed, but in 2006, the average cost for a premature baby's hospital stay in California was $164,273, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Eight times that equals $1.3 million.

For a single mother, the cost of raising 14 children through age 17 ranges from $1.3 million to $2.7 million, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is struggling to close a $42 billion budget gap by cutting services, declined through a spokesman to comment on the taxpayer costs associated with the octuplets' delivery and care.

State Sen. Sam Aanestad, R-Grass Valley, an oral surgeon who sits on the Health Committee, said that once a state Medical Board investigation is complete, lawmakers could review issues from government oversight to standards in fertility treatment.

Suleman received disability payments for an on-the-job back injury during a riot at a state mental hospital, collecting more than $165,000 over nearly a decade before the benefits were discontinued last year.

Some of the disability money was spent on in vitro fertilizations, which was used for all 14 of her children, Suleman said. She said she also worked double shifts at the mental hospital and saved up for the treatments. She estimated that all her treatments cost $100,000.

Fourteen states, including California, require insurance companies to offer or provide coverage for infertility treatment, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. But California has a law specifically excluding in vitro coverage. It's not clear what type of coverage Suleman has.

In the NBC interview, Suleman said she will go back to California State University, Fullerton in the fall to complete her master's degree in counseling, and will use student loans to support her children. She already owes $50,000 in student loans, she told NBC. She said she will rely on the school's daycare center and volunteers.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090212/ap_on_re_us/octuplets

Linkat
 
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Reply Thu 12 Feb, 2009 12:09 pm
@Green Witch,
Yes - I agree - now come on, maybe the woman is a raving nutcase- but the doctor should definately have known better.
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 12 Feb, 2009 12:32 pm
@Pamela Rosa,
Pamela Rosa wrote:

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In the NBC interview, Suleman said she will go back to California State University, Fullerton in the fall to complete her master's degree in counseling, and will use student loans to support her children. She already owes $50,000 in student loans, she told NBC. She said she will rely on the school's daycare center and volunteers.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090212/ap_on_re_us/octuplets


Well, that solves the daycare problem, doesn't it? And in California, she'll probably succeed.
Green Witch
 
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Reply Thu 12 Feb, 2009 06:46 pm
@roger,
This whole case proposes an ethical dilemma. Should children pay a terrible price because they're brought into the world by mentally ill people? Do we have any duty as a society to help these children (who will one day be members of our society) or should they be abandoned to the sole care of the mother who seems unfit for the task? I would not be opposed to these children being removed from the Octomom's care and placed in loving, sane homes. I still think the doctor bears some responsibility in all this and his medical license should be reviewed.
mismi
 
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Reply Thu 12 Feb, 2009 06:53 pm
@Green Witch,
I agree Green Witch...

Does it say how she could afford to have fertility treatment, when she can't afford to feed her children?
Green Witch
 
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Reply Thu 12 Feb, 2009 07:00 pm
@mismi,
I'm not sure that has been tracked down yet. Apparently the kind of fertility treatment she had would not have been covered by Medicaid. It is also believed she has had facial plastic surgery and no one knows how she could have afforded that either.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 12 Feb, 2009 07:06 pm
Well she must have had facial alterations, as this picture shows a different nose
and different eyes. Also her lips weren't as protruding as they are now. Aside
from that, I think the infertility specialist is highly unethical.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Thu 12 Feb, 2009 07:35 pm
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 12 Feb, 2009 08:18 pm
Well Tico, aren't the Mormons prohibited from taking any form of birth control
(which also included crossing legs)?
 

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