Gender Challenge: Am I a woman or a man?

@spendius,

The average audience is what I fail to satisfy, according to people who make money in the field. They could have been lying to make me feel good. I don't rule it out.

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@spendius,

Part of my problem with your outlook is that it requires the man to be on top, in all cases. I find this a bit boring and stifling. Espescially if its a relationship lasts longer than 3 sh^^gs. The word tosser was an ironic reference to those who use pornography. I didn't mean to offend. It has a literal and metaphorical meaning as well you know.
P.S. the women in Benny Hill were doing it for the money. Some women much prefer silver to satisfaction: and self respect. Seriously even lap dancers do it for the cash. The blokes are there to say: I know you find it demeaning but I got the cash and power: so lie there and take it.
Personally if you can't get your kicks from the sex alone, I don't understand what the world is coming too.

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Not sure why you books were not published, Fount...but those few posts show an extraordinary ability with words and ideas.

You do write from both sides of the aisle.

You mentioned that “publishers” rejected your work.

Perhaps your choice for agent was more at fault in the rejection than your work.

And considering those last few posts…why, oh why, are there so many of the other kind?

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@Montana,

Montana wrote:

This is really buggin me Intrepid! This thread had finally died down to where everyone was being civil to Fount and along you come to stir the pot.

Why?

How do you consider this stirring up the pot? I am keeping within the premise of the thread and have not said anything bad in that post about anyone.

This was proposed as a challenge and I simply took the challenge and, through the hundreds of posts I have come down to what I wrote. I left out my theory about multiple personalities etc.

Why does my post upset you so much? I think you have taken what I wrote out of context and are just reacting accordingly.

My intent was not to upset anybody.

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I suspect the only truth in this topic is about Kitty Carlisle.

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@Intrepid,

FWIW: My take on this is that you're being neutral, maybe coolly critical which reasonably was no different than you had been earlier. You provided your somewhat clinical insight. FWIW, it interested me; however, it didn't endear Montana, to say the least.

The thread drifted around (as typical for this tyope of thread), then headed toward more of an acceptance/slack-cutting, comaradery, perhaps. Then some self-disclosure and Montana pursued and encouraged an opening up of dialogue with a soothing, emotional, warmly feminine, quality. I think what I pereceive is her disappointment in where the tone of the thread might revert. I don't see where either has done anything wrong...you are just at cross-purposes.

My only objection here now is that I feel annoyed and cheated. I dislike the feeling of having been manipulated. FOW stated ultimately that he was looking for something else entirely. If someone was upfront in this sort of thread and said there are/were a writer and wanted to do a roleplay, I'd be a happier participant. My motivation to help someone who has been rejected by the publishing world would make me want to participate. Many people are more often inclined to help those who make open, honest requests for help.

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@jespah,

Here kitty, kitty, kitty! Twisted Evil

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@Ragman,

I am to the point where all I want to know is if FOW's name actually starts with a K

Smile

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@Montana,

Montana wrote:

Wow Intrepid, in all that, the only thing I agree with is that he's a man. I can't see where you're getting the rest.

Montana, have you read the thread from the beginning?

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@Fountofwisdom,

Fountofwisdom wrote:

The original premise was criticised as stifling and stupid. I'm allowing it to move on: plus you got to admit listening to Montana is pretty stimulating whatever gear you've got in your underwear.
Here's something you may not have considered. Writers have to spend a lot of time in character, and explore various personalities. To a degree that may not be healthy. I have to imagine myself digging coal in confined underground chambers, then staring into mirrors and wondering which would be that perfect seductive shade of scarlet which would capture my man, I have worn metaphorical stillettos and clattered clumsily in steel capped boots.
I am a writer, insomuch as I have written books. They have been rejected as being a little unsettling and weird for an average audience, which is unbelievable I know.
I'm not sure if I actually still have a soul as so many Characters have inhabited my body. I haven't checked lately.

That is all well and good. Actually, I had considered that. I think I even alluded to such a thing without actually writing the words way back.

Perhaps you could explain how this exercise would put you into a character and what kind of book you would be writing with the material that you garner from this thread.

Montana is taking the feminine comforting approach and I am taking the male analytical approach. What approach are you taking?

Your recent reference to dangly bits made me think of Lord Ellpus who used that term in his writing. This must be an English term that I was not previously familiar with. You may not be familiar with that poster. He was also from England and is a missed member of the forum and I thank you for bringing out this remembrance.

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@jespah,

jespah wrote:

I suspect the only truth in this topic is about Kitty Carlisle.

You may well be right. Thanks for the memory of Kitty and company.

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@Ragman,

i find it weird that people have been subscribing all kinds of motives to me. I started this thread with no particular idea or plan. I wanted it to be less hostile and boo yah as I feel this isn't generally what interesting people respond too. There are gentle souls with worthwhile voices.
The original thread idea was trashed pretty soundly. Your nostalgia is ironic. You were yawning: and told me I was boring: I added all kinds of stuff to please the multitude
Basically I want to explore ideas of stereotyping in an honest way, with stories by people illustrating what they think the truth is. Or might be. You can post anything you want on gender issues, and honest and open with your ideas. You will not be judged here. I WILL NOT ALLOW IT. You want to play a game? make one up: I'm in. We are here to please.
Here's a random fact on sex. The United Nations spent 5 years investigating which was the best position for women to achieve fruition. In Holland. Exhaustive study. The result. Well its good news for dog lovers.

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@Intrepid,

You're very welcome. After many years of seeing her as a TV game show panelist, I was floored when she "showed up" in one of my favorite comedy movies. She was a generous true patron of the arts, classy, multi-faceted lady for the decades.

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@Intrepid,

I think both of you are in your own way stimulating: I think your analysis is a bit sweeping and possibly a bit judgemental: certainly it upset Montana, so I'm glad you apologised.
I'm hanging out with interesting people: we are sharing stuff: let's party. My name doesnt begin with K. i was a member of A2K years ago. I got fed up with my posts being voted down by religious nuts. This was around 5 years ago.
basically sex is a very simple thing, and a very complicated thing: I was hoping we could all learn from eachother. Its something we all have an opinion on. Gender too.

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@Fountofwisdom,

Judgemental is in the eye of the beholder. Not, of necessity, of the poster.

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@Fountofwisdom,

Fountofwisdom wrote:

I think It's from the Institute for Sex Research. (There is such an organisation- part of University of Indiana, I believe). It does include threesomes, which if you do the Maths must include a homosexual component. There is also a less serious research establishment in California.
Basically any research on sex is difficult to prove because everybody lies. If you compare statistics on when people say they lost with their virginity, Blokes claim 13 women 17. In fact biologically Women mature earlier and have sex at a younger age than men. That is old research from the 70's, University of Minnesota, I think, Or whatever the top place in St Pauls is.

I was 11.

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@OmSigDAVID,

Lucky man!

I'm still virgin.

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@Francis,

Francis wrote:

Lucky man!

I'm still virgin.

It happened rather unexpectedly

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@OmSigDAVID,

It usually does

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@Francis,

Francis wrote:

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I'm still virgin...

..on the ridiculous?

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