Gender Challenge: Am I a woman or a man?

@Fountofwisdom,

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I can't believe that we've had 25 pages on gender stereotyping and no ones mentioned buying shoes.

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@Frank Apisa,

i suspect you are crediting with me with more guile than I'm showing. I have lived all my life in England. That would make me English. However I'm second generation immigrant so consider myself "Eropean"or Gypsy"sometimes English. I don't go big on nationality.
All posts under the title Fountofwisdom have been typed, devised,written, entirely unaided by myself. I have at no point referred, requested or consulted other people in my replies.Or allowed amendendment or alteration by others. Jespah can draw up a contract for me to sign for a small(smallish fee---well smallish for a lawyer)
I have never suffered from psychiatric personality disorders. inc schizophrenia. Not even depression. I have never had treatment for narcotics or alcohol abuse or been convicted for any offence. My character is such that I hold an enhanced CRB check, a legal document that allows me to work with minors and vulnerable adults. It has no endorsements or qualifications.
Does this help.?

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@George,

I have 15 pairs of footwear. Including 3 pairs of slippers, and 3 pairs of trainers.

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@Fountofwisdom,

Male - a woman HAS to have more - even if they're just flip flops

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@Fountofwisdom,

case closed! The avg adult man has less than 6 pair of shoes and one pair of slippers.

(Gawd, I hate myself for replying.)

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@Ragman,

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case closed! The avg adult man has less than 6 pair of shoes and one pair of slippers.

I'm sure you meant to say "fewer" and maybe our friend is a packrat.

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@Fountofwisdom,

Take on Hesiod dearie. Don't give me that "upsetting a woman" bullshit. Any man not prepared to upset a woman is the inspirational idea of Bill Greenwell's famous line "the last rasping gasp of the mantis's groom." And a great deal else. The essence of true romanticism is the death of the male preferably in trying circumstances. See Titanic. There's a whole genre of heroes with wrung necks who jibbed at upsetting a woman.

Sarah B. Pomeroy, Professor of Classics at Hunter College and at the Graduate School of the City university of New York wrote, in her book Goddesses, Whores, Wives and Slaves--

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Pandora is comparable to the temptress Eve, and the box she opened may be a metaphor for carnal knowledge of women, which was a source of evil to men.

According to Hesiod, and he was nearer to Wicca than any of today's pantomimes, Zeus, angry at Prometheus for stealing fire--

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He ordered famed Hephaestus to make haste:
Mix earth with water, add a human voice
And strength, a face like deathless goddesses',
A maiden's form--desirable and fair.
Athena was to teach her weaving skills,
And Aphrodite drench her head in grace,
And sore longing, and cares that gnaw the limbs,
To add a bitch's thoughts, and wily ways,
Zeus ordered Hermes, slayer of Argus.
The gods obeyed the lord Zeus, Cronus' son.
Renowned Hephaestus molded out of earth
A modest maiden's likeness--as Zeus bid.
Gray-eyed Athena clothed and girded her.
Persuasion and the Graces draped her flesh
In golden necklaces, and for a crown
The fair-haired Seasons wove the flowers of spring.
In her breast the guide, Slayer of Argus,
Put lies and crooked words and wily ways,
As loud thundering Zeus had bid. A voice
The god's herald bestowed, and then a name,
Pandora (since all Olympian gods
Gave a gift)--a pain to hard-toiling men.

Ms Pomeroy quotes that.

And Homer has Ulysses have himself tied to the mast to get by a chorus of those voices.

You are pushing a smattering of superficial knowledge at us, which you are choosing, couched in Comprehensive school English. I kid you not.

Evelyn Waugh reported once that- "we stopped the car and threw her out to shift for herself."

I think a touch of gentle humility might serve your purposes better.

I saw an editoress of Cosmo apologise for her work. Live on TV.

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@Ragman,

We have established "not an average man".

I am surprised by how few pairs. We now know he/she doesn't moonlight in a drag show.

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@spendius,

We are not all as daft as Haggard makes Leo Vincey.

Wankers of the world unite and defeat this hydra-headed monster which has delivered the Financial Crisis up your ass.

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@spendius,

Any bloke who thinks carnal knowledge is evil shouldn't visit Sheffield. He probably wouldn't have a good time in sex city.
Didn't the classical Greeks think that women were so inferior that the only true love could be between men. Certainly they were partial to meat soppositories.
Plato believed in showing young boys "the kingdom of heaven." They believed the body beautiful was the male body.
i think that if you want to partake in carnal pleasures then upsetting the gender of your desiring is a bit daft.
I would happily lie and cheat if it got me what I wanted. Thats Darwin for you. And the plot to most Shakespeare.
Personally I think a bloke who wants to dominate a woman isn't necesarily happy. People who have loads of sex tend to smile more. Male or female. Put it this way, I have no problem with people wanting sex from someone attractive. Any other reason for having a relationship cheapens it. But there has to be more too.

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Howdy Fount Very Happy

I just thought of a few questions and hope they haven't already been covered.

Have you ever painted your nails and if so, how many times?

Do you wear make up and if not, was there a time when you did?

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@George,

ummm...Geroge...I'm confused about your reply. Doesn't fewer than mean less than?

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@Montana,

I Won't answer on nails because I think that is something only women do. I never paint my nails now because I play guitar, I have worn make up sometimes often: However I would mention here that actors and people who appear on TV wear make up. As do facepainters and clowns. Some people wear make up to hide scars. It is a lot more common than you think amongst men. There are women who don't wear cosmetics on animal rights grounds and other political causes.
I wear make up that is cruelty free. It is subtle. and I don't wear it daily. I certainly wore a lot more make up when I was younger. I used to be a goth. (Emo in America I think).
Heres another fact that I find amusing, London city Gents, the guys with bowler hats and stuff. 40% of them wear tights in Winter to keep warm.
I think you would be right in thinking that women wear make up a lot more than men. It was a good question. I was going to stonewall it. But you've been so polite.

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@Ragman,

In England there has been a legal ruling on grammar. Shops have to advertise four or fewer not four or less for example. Its grammatically accurate. Glad to see you're still here.

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@Fountofwisdom,

Thank you Fount. I knew you would have to dodge the nail one and you're right, men wear make up as well.
Interesting that you use to be goth. I would have never expected that and I find you very interesting, regardless of what gender you are.

I thought of another question. Which parent are you closest with, mom or dad?

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@Ragman,

Sorry, Rags. Former English teacher here.
Fewer is used with things you can count.
I have fewer pairs of shoes than you do.
Less is used with things that are more abstract.
I have less charm than you have.

But for most intents and purposes, I don't think it makes much difference.

There'll always idiots like me who wince every time they see
"12 items or less" at the supermarket checkout.

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@George,

As a former English major and former technical writer, I accept your correction with proper humbleness and contrition. ^5

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@Fountofwisdom,

Fount, you wrote:

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i suspect you are crediting with me with more guile than I'm showing. I have lived all my life in England.

Not trying to give you a hard time, Fount…but dealing with you is like trying to nail jello to a ceiling!

In your first response to me, you wrote: “I have lived almost all of my life in England.”

Not sure whether it is “all of your life” or “most of your life”, but it seems to me that you could have answered my question: “Are you Enlish?”with a simple “YES!” (Unless you were trying to exhibit guile, of course.)

My question, “Are we dealing with just one person here?” could easily have been answered “YES.” The only reason it was brought up again…was that you did not answer it at all the first time I asked it. I’m sure all that other stuff amuzed you…and it was interestingly constructed.

Does this help.?

Yup. You coulda done it the first time!

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@Ragman,

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As a former English major and former technical writer, I accept your correction with proper humbleness and contrition. ^5

If you keep sticking your tongue in it, your cheek's gonna stay like that.

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@Frank Apisa,

IMHO...lost cause, Frank. I respect your opinion as an A2k veteran. So, why do you think there's no answer and this is being dragged on far beyond it's useful shelf-life? More importantly, why are do we still return here? Personally, I'm baffled.

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