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Gender Challenge: Am I a woman or a man?

 
 
Montana
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 03:32 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
Yes, your comments did create rage within many of the American people and I'm glad that you feel you generalised them unfairly. You recognize your mistake, but sometimes it's too late.
A2K is a community of people, some like myself having been members for several years and within those years we have formed kind of a family where people stick together. Some have an easier time letting things go, while others take it more personally, holding onto that grudge.
Americans (not all) are patriotic and proud people, so it's quite a stab to many when they are negatively judged for being Americans.

Yes, unfortunately some do run in packs to support eachother, but this happens all over the world.

Thank you for your kind words and I appreciate that you see where you may have stepped out of line and that you are trying to rectify it, although, suggesting they grow up will not help you.

I personally wish everyone could just stop right here, right now, shake hands and start all over again. Can we wipe the slate clean? I don't know. I can only wish.
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 03:38 pm
@Montana,
I don't expect it. One thing the A2K is usually not good at is forgiving, forgetting, or letting anybody start over. And God forgive the one branded pariah who attempts to apologize or explain himself/herself to make peace. That's not going to be allowed. Smile

Oh well. The beat goes on. And so will A2K.

ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 03:39 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I agree, I'm glad to see PQ participating in general a2k mishugas. (That post of yours was pages back, Frank.)
Montana
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 03:43 pm
@Foxfyre,
I know, but I've seen it happen and gosh darnit, I bet it can happen again Very Happy

Maybe if we get everyone drunk Drunk Laughing
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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 04:27 pm
Wow! 13 pages today. I'll read it later to see why a thread with this title has attracted so much attention. I've never met anybody before who didn't know what sex they were. I read Myra Breckenridge once but it was stupid.

I found the thread looking for Fountie to see why she had backed off on the Electoral College disputation. I didn't think she was the type to be shouted down with a few insults.

For the record I'm a man.
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 04:28 pm
@spendius,
Are you sure Spendi?
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 04:37 pm
@Foxfyre,
I was the first to take the plunge and assert Fountie is a lady whilst the others on the thread were addressing her as a man. It's on the Electoral College thread I think but she did have a quick dip in the hot water of one of the Evolution threads where I am besieged now that you so called defenders of religion have scuttered off into the bushes.

It wafts from her creations like skirts do when an indignant lady rushes past.
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 04:40 pm
@spendius,
LOL, well I think y0u are wrong about Fount but it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong.

Actually, though, I was asking: are you sure YOU are a man? If you haven't met some A2Kers who will vouch for you, do you have any way of proving that one way or another?
Tryst
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 04:42 pm
Fountofwisdom wrote:

What was your first date with the person who is now your spouse?

Fri 2 Jan, 2009 07:07 pm - I told her I liked " Jimi Hendrix". She said she did too. She lied to me. I forgave her. ... (view)

What was your first date with the person who is now your spouse?

Sat 3 Jan, 2009 12:27 am - She said she liked Diana Ross and the Supremes. I said so did I. Love makes you do crazy things... (view)

I do not know if same sex marriage is allowed in the UK but, if we take the simple dictionary definition:

Spouse: noun, verb, spoused, spousâ‹…ing.
"noun
1. Either member of a married pair in relation to the other; one's husband or wife.


It may therefore be safely concluded he has answered his own question. Q.E.D.












Intrepid
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 04:50 pm
@Tryst,
This was all brought out near the beginning of the thread
The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 04:57 pm
@ossobuco,
Thx osso Cool xxx
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Tryst
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 05:01 pm
@Intrepid,
Apologies; even self flagellation is preferable to reading all 22 pages.
Fountofwisdom
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 05:07 pm
@spendius,
The first time we met you spoke of your hand plunging into an icy pool and letting minnows swim between your fingers. I was almost transported into the wild moors with you. Such poetic imagery.
I find your sense of humour endearing. But your sexism less so. Even if you jest. I admire your politeness> It is a refreshing change. However I am not and never will be a lady.
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 05:20 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
So, having missed the other inferences near the beginning, I am correct that you are an extraverted male. But not gay at all, so any suspicions there were definitely off course. Smile
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 05:55 pm
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:


Quote:

I think you might be the fortunate exception rather than the rule
though David, unless you are an incredibly sexy great looking jock
who would be adored if he was dumb as dirt.

I have never liked my looks.
If I coud, I 'd change them to look like
some hot-shot entertainer like the star of The Mentalist.



Quote:

You may be drawing an incorrect assumption based
on your own experience here.

Well, this was my experience over a long period of time
during which there were NO exceptions at all, however slight.
Being in Mensa does not mean that u r infallible about everything.
People may have spoken ill of any imperfections of intelligence,
but I have never had anyone complain of my being too intelligent.
Actually, I am not sure how that woud work; like: "hay u !
U r too intelligent; u get the job done right. Y don 't screw it up ?"





Quote:
I certainly am not Mensa material, but I have a few friends who are.
Each has admitted they were sometimes teased about being 'egg heads'

I 'm not sure what the opposite of tease is,
but nicknames were applied to me in a nice way, congenially.
The one that I remember from age 12 was "walking encyclopedia"
because I corrected some teachers in class and my corrections
were proven accurate by recourse to an encyclopedia that we
had in the classroom. Thay liked that. Until then, thay 'd
assumed that the definition of truth was what fell from the mouth
of the school teacher. Maybe thay felt that I was representing them.
The application of confrontational logic comes naturally to me,
almost like a reflex; it always did. (That 's good for cross-examination.)
Maybe that 's Y I was drawn to becoming a trial attorney.
I enjoyed the sword n shield work in front of the jury,
as long as I had my witnesses lined up there and looked good on liability.




Quote:

or some such and each deliberately provided wrong information
or missed a question on a test to avoid the snotty remarks that
would result from being 'perfect'.

That is fundamentally alien to my mind.
It is (vicariously) emotionally painful to think of anyone
degrading himself that way. That concept is the quintessence of anathema.
In the schools that I attended, good grades were held in hi esteem.
Thay implored me to tutor especially as testing time approached.
The intensity of their supplications was inversely proportional
to the time left before the test.





Quote:

Most kids don't want to be different and are sometimes treated
unkindly by at least some when they are.

I have heard that.
I don t relate to it. I never tried to fit in. I was my own leader.
I have always been very individualistic, libertarian n hedonistic;
(which is another way of saying that I did what I damn well pleased).
Once when I was 9, I decided to go to a store n buy something.
(I don 't remember what.) My mother suggested that I dress better,
opining: " David, u shoud not go out like that.
What r people going to think ? " I responded:
" I don 't give a damn what anyone THINKS.
I care what thay DO, but I don 't care what thay THINK."
I have since amended that filosofy and wear
custom tailored vested suits. I believe that my mother 'd approve.






Quote:

Each did mature sufficiently to make peace with their intellect,
however, and graduated from highschool and college early with
honors and have gone on to make successes of their lives though
none of them 'flaunt' their impressive intellects even to this day.
I am speaking of two guys and one gal.

Well, something that I have known guys to do, for many years,
going back so long I can 't remember, is relating to one another
in humorous n good natured confrontational argument, rife with
jokes and use of logic as an instrument of ego domination --
a human form of rutting, and that DOES involve flaunting
on a long term basis, continuing for decades-on-end.
There is no dearth of THAT; a whole lot of flaunting going on.

Have u observed it among men of the male sex ?



David
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 06:00 pm
I've observed friendly and not-so-friendly competitiveness among males of course, as well as among some alpha females, but I will agree that it is more common among guys. But no, I've never seen anybody but females compare their IQs and that has been pretty darn rare. Smile
Intrepid
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 06:08 pm
@Tryst,
Tryst wrote:

Apologies; even self flagellation is preferable to reading all 22 pages.
No apology necessary. Just trying to be helpful. Smile
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parados
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 06:35 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
The first question you answered was the one about sexuality and you denied reading Penthouse at any time in your life. That means you weren't a young boy into sports when younger. Because you answered that one first, I suspect your sexuality is important to you and you were eager to let us know you were different.

You claimed your father was a mechanic but you don't drive. It's hard for a boy to grow up around cars and not be interested in them. (Question that could be revealing. What is your relationship with your father? Do you introduce your boyfriends/girlfriends to him? Does he approve?)

You use 2 different colognes, one expensive that you save for special occasions.. (No hetero man would see any reason to do that.)
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 06:40 pm
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:

I've observed friendly and not-so-friendly competitiveness among
males of course, as well as among some alpha females, but I will
agree that it is more common among guys. But no, I've never
seen anybody but females compare their IQs and that has been pretty darn rare. Smile

True, but that 's not what I meant.

I did not mean anyone alleging that he has an I.Q.
of some number on a designated scale of value.
I was only referring to guys competitively employing logic,
usually with arguments fraught with comedy,
to establish ego domination, by demonstrating that he is more clever,
along with a lot of jokes permeating ad hominem denunciations.

That kind of rutting goes on for decades among guys.
I don t believe that chicks do it.





David
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 06:41 pm
@Foxfyre,
Quote:
Actually, though, I was asking: are you sure YOU are a man? If you haven't met some A2Kers who will vouch for you, do you have any way of proving that one way or another?


Well- I can't bang my dick on the desk like Mailer did on here but I might say that an English gentleman can be easily identified.

He is not that intertested in sex except maybe a couple of times a week when there's been a "bonnet" whatsit on the telly. Jane Austen or Mrs Gaskell. Something along that line. Judy Dench. Forever Amber. Bodice ripping. Dastardly villians. Heroines clutching on tight as they ride pillion on the prancing steed. You know?

He is much more concerned about his eggs being boiled to the correct consistency, his rolling papers always available, his slippers being ready and a whole range of other stuff which it would take too long to list: a cupboard full of bottled fruit and jam with paper tops held down by elastic bands and those cool hands which are necessary for perfect pastry in which to enclose either of these items and a knowledge of how custard should be made. A man who has domesticated a wild cat is easily identified.

Buck teeth, skenning eyes, overlarge busts and bottoms, gauche fashion sense, incoherent conversation and all the rest, farting whilst asleep, are irrelevant.

Taking the piss out of the henpecked husbands is a dead giveaway Foxy.

You won't ever hear a woman take the piss out of a henpecked husband.

What I have found is that women like nothing better than a man to take them in hand and domesticate them. Encourage them to bargain hunt and to feel ashamed if their grub is not up to snuff.

And all that is required is to let them watch Coronation Street, Emmerdale and viewers doing the thumbs down thing programmes on singers, skaters, dancers and people pretending they have gone native whilst asleep or in the pub. It's easy. And people having relationship problems programmes.

As long as cricket isn't on I mean.

What wonderful creatures they are. What a ******* mess feminists have made of them. They can no longer be truly loved.

 

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