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Gender Challenge: Am I a woman or a man?

 
 
wandeljw
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 11:45 am
@Fountofwisdom,
Fountofwisdom wrote:

You are 100% right. I spent years hiding my intelligence. I point out I didn't once bring it up. People act as though I SHOULD BE ASHAMED of my IQ. I don't think this thread will change the world. My hope is it might get people to think about it a bit.
I made that statement partly to be provocative. I never once claimed that I am free of gender bias.
In your case, I feel that what you did was a heroic act, because it was unambiguous and public. This would make you special. Your rejection of gold stars is to your credit. Good behaviour is its own reward.
All I can say is that whatever the result, I have encouraged people to share , discuss and think: And I have tried by best to be positive about things. I gave it a shot.
I am pretty sure that any attempt at debate would have meant the trolls would have drowned people out.
I think the fact that you learnt not to disparage your own sex is a remarkable achievement and one that few achieve. It is to your credit.
I am not important. You are.


The last line in this post is a non-sequitur: "I am not important. You are." The post itself uses the word "I" fourteen times. The word "you" appears only three times.

My advice, Fountofwisdom, is to discuss topics where you do not need to use the word "I" so much. Otherwise, the attention-seeking label is valid.
The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 11:52 am
@wandeljw,
I think the thing is, although this thread is done jovially, it plays with some issues that most people are more used to seeing done in serious contemplation, or study, so by comparison... you know?

Maybe it would have been more interesting to play the guess the IQ game.
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 11:59 am
Wandel writes
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My advice, Fountofwisdom, is to discuss topics where you do not need to use the word "I" so much. Otherwise, the attention-seeking label is valid.


Why do you care? Why did you bother to post in this thread at all? What concern is it of yours that FOW uses "I" in a thread asking a question about himself either for fun or as an exercise in perception and also in a thread in which he is the target of many erroneous and/or uncomplimentary and occasionally unkind references?

Apparently the subject was of interest to all of you feigning little or no interest or who are objecting to the concept. Smile
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Fountofwisdom
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 12:03 pm
@The Pentacle Queen,
I actually don't enjoy being abused Pentacle. If you want to start the thread I'll go along. My guess is around 120 for having read Plato. Plus 10 for understanding a bit of it. Plus 10 because being I am likely to be underestimating you on the grounds of your sex. That makes er....er.....er..... only joking 140. Because I am stabbing in the dark that is plus or minus 20.
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Fountofwisdom
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 12:12 pm
@The Pentacle Queen,
Pentacle: I am trying to reach the public. No one gives a hoot about Academics. It seems that I can't do anything right. I was only trying to amuse with a serious point. Basically I didn't want to lecture, I wanted to engage. I realise I was wrong. I am so sorry that I have bored and hurt so many people.
Ragman
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 12:13 pm
@The Pentacle Queen,
agreed
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Ragman
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 12:16 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
I'm positive that I was mistaken that this would be an entertaining thread.

I see no one abusing you. I see rebuttal and much deserved criticism. If you can't take the heat (of criticism), then get out of the kitchen.
djjd62
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 12:18 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
Fountofwisdom wrote:

Pentacle: I am trying to reach the public. No one gives a hoot about Academics. It seems that I can't do anything right. I was only trying to amuse with a serious point. Basically I didn't want to lecture, I wanted to engage. I realise I was wrong. I am so sorry that I have bored and hurt so many people.


wow, you really are a pathetic creature

damn, too bad that's not one of the choices

by the by, i find this thread interesting, annoying and inevitably an exercise in futility, but interesting none the less
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Fountofwisdom
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 12:18 pm
@wandeljw,
You make some valid points for improving the methodology. Surely if you repeat this experiment you will achieve better results than my humble efforts.
Sincere wishes for a brighter future. Forgive my attempt to be profound and inspiring. The last sentence is logically consistent, to declare it a non-sequitur is in fact incorrect. However many thanks for pointing out my inadequacies.It is much appreciated.
The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 12:21 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
That was an only a possible explanation fount, not a personal attack.
I have rather enjoyed this thread.

I said what I said about the 'IQ game' first of all as a joke, and second of all I was making the point that we can tell a lot more about someone's 'IQ' or maturity from their post, than about their gender, meaning that it often makes more sense to prove your wisdom rather than make self involved explanations about my intelligence.

Ok maybe that was a bit of a personal attack.
Carry on in your bid to enlighten the public.
The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 12:22 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
LOOK AT HOW MANY LONG WORDS I CAN SPELL.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 12:24 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
Fountofwisdom wrote:

Only on TV: He captained England winning the world cup.


Since Bobby Moore last played in the 1970's that would make you at least 40 years of age. There goes the young female theory that someone suggested.

Actually, I think you are a man with feminine tendencies.
wandeljw
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 12:25 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
Fountofwisdom wrote:

Pentacle: I am trying to reach the public. No one gives a hoot about Academics. It seems that I can't do anything right. I was only trying to amuse with a serious point. Basically I didn't want to lecture, I wanted to engage. I realise I was wrong. I am so sorry that I have bored and hurt so many people.


I forgive you, Fountofwisdom. Newcomers often make similar mistakes. There are many topics where I believe you can make interesting contributions. For example, I enjoyed reading your posts on Ragman's "progressive rock" thread.

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Fountofwisdom
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 12:27 pm
@Ragman,
you are the immature, conflicted girl I suspect you are

last abuse. I am not imagining it. Trust me. I didnt have to look to hard. I can't see what I've done to deserve criticism. However I've just listen to Shaved Fish. Therefore I love you for saying that. Really man, why can't we just love one another. You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one.
dagmaraka
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 12:27 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
methodology? experiment? profound and inspiring? i gather you have neither much education (at least yet) nor much experience. i presume you are very young, which is very much in your favor. i honestly do wish you good luck with finding yourself and finding security in who you are. my sense is that whatever you are, you do not have a lot of self confidence and have come here to find something to boost your ego. that's quite ok, many do it. i hope you will find a more productive way of exploring who you are - whether here or elsewhere. and that is a sincere wish.
if i'm wrong, i still wish you all the best. a thread like this is a sign of personal difficulties and i hope you will address them successfully eventually.
Fountofwisdom
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 12:29 pm
@Ragman,
wow, you really are a pathetic creature

Right under your nose ragman. Tell me what I did to deserve that.
Intrepid
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 12:30 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
Fountofwisdom wrote:

You really have a problem with my IQ. I find that sad. I hope you learn to come to terms with your feelings of inferiority. What are you doing here if you dont want to discuss the topic? Frankly my dear I don't give a damn.


Does the fact that you responded to Frank's mention of IQ and NOT to the gender identity part indicate that Frank is correct in his assumption?
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 12:33 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
Fount wrote:
Quote:
You are 100% right. I spent years hiding my intelligence. I point out I didn't once bring it up.


I wonder who it was who stole access to her computer and posted that information about her???

That would make a very interesting thread!

Who Posted The Information That Fount Has An IQ of 160???
Intrepid
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 12:34 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
Fountofwisdom wrote:

You are 100% right. I spent years hiding my intelligence.


Apparently, you are continuing your efforts at hiding it.
aidan
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jan, 2009 12:34 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
fountofwisdom said:
Quote:
However I've just listen to Shaved Fish. Therefore I love you for saying that. Really man, why can't we just love one another. You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one.


Funny - I hope you stick around. I think you're smart (or at least in your first incarnation you were - whoever that was, bring him/her back) and you're entertaining.

I'm like you - life's a tapestry. And to me, laughter is the most brilliant thread.
Speaking of which - I miss Ramafuchs and Hello Kitty Girl too.

I also think you're a guy because of your encyclopedic knowledge of music - not that you simply like it or know it - you have this sort of obsessively (in a good way) encyclopedic knowledge of it. Not many girls do that - I'm a music fanatic - but I don't do that - not enough time (mothering, working, cooking, grocery shopping, laundry, you know -all that). But a lot of guys do that. Laughing (I tried to get the emoticon up by what you said, but it's not cooperating- I laughed at what you said, not what I said)
 

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