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Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

 
 
Foofie
 
  1  
Sun 13 Oct, 2013 09:04 am
@izzythepush,
However, being born in the U.S. was not an achievement; it reflected the intelligence of grandparents I really did not even know. They bet that future generations would have a better life in the U.S. than in Russia. Might I say that horse came in paying off decently for four generations. It has nothing to do with any achievement of mine. It only has to do with the luck of the draw. Do you begrudge me my luck to have grandparents with a wanderlust? If you don't, then just shut your mouth.
Moment-in-Time
 
  2  
Sun 13 Oct, 2013 09:09 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Most religious sects have dogma that runs against the grain of common sense


Don't get me started on the hypocrisy inherent in many who lay claim to being pious....that deceitful display of religious intentions. In my personal opinion, extremism is based on perversion of religion which we see in the Islamic faith, the Pentecostal Religion, and the Roman Catholic Church. But hypocrisy exists in all religions simply because we are an imperfect species; I have witnessed such by the many child abuse cases which appear in the media with the Priest, Rabbis, Ministers tried for sexual crimes; I see how the RCC covered up the sexual abuse of little boys down through the centuries. How many Nuns out of sexual frustration take their problems out on their pupils.

Outside my school there are so-called "Jesus followers" people handing out religious tracts with negative writings regarding Hebrews, "Jewish merchants" in the Temple and how they killed Jesus. You would think the Catholic Church had changed and would teach that Pilate, the Roman Governor passed the law to have Jesus crucified.

Now in the deep south, US, there are Snake-handling churches using snakes in their religious rituals. How braindead can one be?! We were born with a brain which many of us refuse to use...one doesn't deliberately place themselves into harm's way, and surely a poisonous snake will kill 90% of the time. No reasonable thinking person will pick up a poisonous reptile, yet these fundamentalists Pentelcostals believing a god will protect them are going ahead with their rituals. Some people within these cults have died, some have been bitten and lost limbs.

"There is no fixing stupid!"
izzythepush
 
  1  
Sun 13 Oct, 2013 09:18 am
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:
Do you begrudge me my luck to have grandparents with a wanderlust?


No, I begrudge you the time I've wasted talking to an idiot.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Sun 13 Oct, 2013 09:20 am
@Moment-in-Time,
Moment-in-Time wrote:
Now in the deep south, US, there are Snake-handling churches using snakes in their religious rituals.


Maybe they're doing it to sneak a stripper into church.
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Advocate
 
  -1  
Sun 13 Oct, 2013 09:25 am
@izzythepush,
There was a definite stench in this forum. Sure enough, Izzy had weighed in on something with his typical excrement-laden insults.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Sun 13 Oct, 2013 11:06 am
@Advocate,
You're the one who is indulging your fecophiliac tendencies. It's clear you found potty training quite a challenge.
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cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Sun 13 Oct, 2013 11:56 am
@Foofie,
Well, from what I understand, all Jew girls can become princesses.

I did address your point; it was probably a bit confusing, because divergence is a specialty of yours, but mine was still relevant.

It's about "class systems."
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Sun 13 Oct, 2013 11:58 am
@Foofie,
What "Eurocentric." ****, you really don't know your American history. Most immigrants coming to the US were discriminated against by their own countrymen. Read up or shut up!
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Sun 13 Oct, 2013 12:00 pm
@izzythepush,
You know what they say about arguing with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience!
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Foofie
 
  1  
Sun 13 Oct, 2013 03:47 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Foofie wrote:
Do you begrudge me my luck to have grandparents with a wanderlust?


No, I begrudge you the time I've wasted talking to an idiot.


Then perchance for you not to be an idiot also, and waste your own time posting to me.
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Foofie
 
  1  
Sun 13 Oct, 2013 03:56 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Well, from what I understand, all Jew girls can become princesses.



You meant "Jewish" didn't you? "Jew girl" is really an epithet by most people above the Mason Dixon Line. Perhaps, you might not be as worldly as you believe you are? Let me apologize for all the white Americans that didn't get interred in WWII, and were paranoid about your ethnicity. It might have left deep emotional scars that not even working for a Jewish owned company that treated you kindly, could erase? I think you might resent that only Jews were willing to treat you so nicely? Please don't blame Jews for being liberal enough to hire an intelligent Asian, back in the day when Asians still found it hard to compete in the white collar world.
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Foofie
 
  1  
Sun 13 Oct, 2013 04:03 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

What "Eurocentric." ****, you really don't know your American history. Most immigrants coming to the US were discriminated against by their own countrymen. Read up or shut up!


Eurocentric in that the Far East, and Middle East, and Near East only described the distance from Europe. Europe being the only really seat of power. Today it is politically correct to refer to the Pacific Rim nations; the distance from Europe being of little importance in a politically correct way.

And, the U.S., like Europe, did think less of Asia and Africa. Just the reality.

I was talking about international diplomacy, not how immigrants were treated. And, if you remember, Asians were treated the worst with the Exclusion Act, and Blacks were once slaves. My point still stands, regardless of how much jockeying, for a pecking order, existed between different European ethnic groups that were trying to function in a basically WASP society post 1850.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sun 13 Oct, 2013 04:14 pm
@Foofie,
No, you're still wrong. It wasn't only Asians and blacks who suffered discrimination in this country. "Eurocentric" has no meaning in the realm of who suffered discrimination when they immigrated to this country.

From Wiki.
Quote:
Anti-European immigrant ethnic discrimination[edit]
Main article: Anti-Irish racism
Various European-American immigrant groups have been subject to discrimination either on the basis of their immigrant status (known as "Nativism") or on the basis of their ethnicities (country of origin).

New York Times, 1854 ad, reading "No Irish need apply."
In the 19th century, this was particularly true of anti-Irish prejudice, which was partly anti-Catholic sentiment, partly anti-Irish as an ethnicity. This was especially true for Irish Catholics who immigrated to the U.S. in the mid-19th century; the large number of Irish (both Catholic and Protestant) who settled in America in the 18th century had largely (but not entirely) escaped such discimination and eventually blended into the American white population.
The 20th century saw discrimination against immigrants from southern and central Europe (notably Italian-Americans and Polish Americans), partly from anti-Catholic sentiment (as against Irish-Americans), and partly from Nordicism, which considered non-Scandinavian or British immigrants as inferior – see Nordicism in the USA.
“ Biological laws tell us that certain divergent people will not mix or blend. The Nordics propagate themselves successfully. With other races, the outcome shows deterioration on both sides. ”
—Future US president Calvin Coolidge, 1921.[94]
Nordicism led to the reduction in Southern European and Russian immigrants in the National Origins Formula of the Emergency Quota Act of 1921 and the Immigration Act of 1924, whose goal was to maintain the status quo distribution of ethnicity by limiting immigration in proportion to existing populations. This reduced the inflow from the average prior to 1921 of 176,983 from northern, central and western Europe, and 685,531 for other countries, principally Southern and Russia, to a 1924 level of 140,999 for northern, central and western Europe, and 21,847 for other countries, principally Southern and Russia (from a 1:3.9 ratio to a 6.4:1 ratio).
There was also discrimination against German-Americans and Italian-Americans due to these being enemy countries in World War I (Germany) and World War II (Germany and Italy). This resulted in a sharp decrease in German-American ethnic identity and a sharp decrease in the use of German in the United States following WWI, which had hitherto been significant, and to German American internment and Italian American internment during WWII; see also World War I anti-German sentiment.


You need to study American history.
Foofie
 
  1  
Sun 13 Oct, 2013 04:46 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I was talking politically in international diplomacy. I was not talking about discrimination within the country.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sun 13 Oct, 2013 06:32 pm
@Foofie,
No, you were not. Here's a copy and paste from your post.

Quote:
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Quote:
Bigotry is based on inferiority complex; that's how they think they feel superior over others.
They'll never figure out that Obama belongs to the human race like everybody else.
They have to make up stories such as "he's a Kenyan." That tells us everything we need to know about bigots. Even Donald Trump has this idea up his ass!
My note for this post: I'm talking Obama here about Americans who still believe Obama is a Kenyan. Nothing about Europe.

You.
Quote:
Before "white" became the standard racial dichotomy, it was Eurocentric. That actually still exists today. Many people of European descent feel superior to Africans and Asians. Not that it is deservable, but it does exist.

By the way, around a thousand years ago, north Africa felt superior to Europe. Go figure.


Many people feel superior out of ignorance. Eurocentric is an oxymoron, because most cultures are guilty discrimination.
Foofie
 
  1  
Mon 14 Oct, 2013 08:05 am
@cicerone imposter,
It does not matter. Argue with someone else. I disqualify you as someone to discuss anything with. Our respective sets of experience are too different, in my opinion, for discussing anything.
JTT
 
  1  
Mon 14 Oct, 2013 08:31 am
@Foofie,
Quote:
Argue with someone else. I disqualify you as someone to discuss anything with.


You Americans, Foofie, are always whining about putting people on ignore. If you were more honest you'd not have these problems.
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izzythepush
 
  1  
Mon 14 Oct, 2013 08:44 am
@Foofie,
You're right, CI is a lot smarter than you with a greater understanding of the world. You should really confine yourself to dealing with your fellow fuckwits.
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RABEL222
 
  1  
Mon 14 Oct, 2013 10:41 am
@cicerone imposter,
My grandparents came from Italy in 1900. They experienced discrimination in the early 1900s just as did most immigrants.
Foofie
 
  0  
Mon 14 Oct, 2013 05:46 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

My grandparents came from Italy in 1900. They experienced discrimination in the early 1900s just as did most immigrants.


It might be more correct to say they experienced "overt" discrimination. Today people experience "covert" discrimination. Not as much; not in the same places. However, no one should believe that we are one big family of citizens. And, if the truth be known, many that experience discrimination know how to dish it out too.
 

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