Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

..........As a portion of Israel's population, the number of Israelis who took part in protests against the so-called peace process comprised the largest protest movement in history.
The public foresaw what was eminently foreseeable. Renowned intellectuals and decorated military leaders warned that the PLO was a terrorist organization that had no intention of making peace with Israel. They warned that the PLO would use every inch of land Israel transferred to its control as a forward base for terrorism against Israeli civilians. They warned that Yassir Arafat was a liar, a murderer and a Jew hater who would use all powers granted him to murder and legitimize the murder of Israeli civilians. They warned that he was not interested in the least in establishing a Palestinian state, rather wanted only to oversee the dismemberment and destruction of our state, the Jewish state.

And for the past twenty years, their warnings were borne out by events every single day.............

... The Palestinian refugees, who had no hand in the Holocaust, were dispossessed of their land by the Israelis, in what you seem to think was somewhow expiation for the Holocaust. Monstrous crimes by the Nazis do not give the survivors the right to commit crimes on other innocent people. Nor do they give Israelis the right to dispossess someone else as some sort of atonemnt for crimes against them.

If somebody tells you that the place where you are living is shortly going to be a battleground and you don't leave it, you're an idiot. And you're likely to be dead very soon. Under international law, if you flee a war, you have the right to return when the fighting is done. Israel has spent sixty years denying that human right to the Palestinians who fled the fighting and their descendants. Those people and their offspring are the people living in the refugee camps. They are the people who have been systematically denied their legal rights. They are not the Palestinians who lived in Gaza and the West Bank before the wars and who live there today. Nor are they the Palestinians who lived within what is now Israel and didn't flee the war (and who are in many ways discriminated against in Israel, in spite of what the laws may say--a group of people paying only lip service to a law and contravening it in practice is by no means unusual, and it's alive and well in Israel today). The Palestinian REFUGEES have valid claims under international law against the state of Israel, and Israel has spent sixty years completelly refusing to deal with them. Which is why much of the world regards Israel as a pariah state. Y|Until you and your fellow apologists face up to the facts of history, you're never going to see peace. And it's your own fault.
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(Jews are not in Europe anymore to any great degree; quite admirable in the eyes of many Europeans when they speak candidly).

Very little of the world regards Israel as a pariah state. Only anti-Semites view Israel that way.

As for the Palestinians, if they refuse to make peace based on 1967 borders, they can simply be deported out of the West Bank and housed in Gaza.

... The Palestinian refugees, who had no hand in the Holocaust, were dispossessed of their land by the Israelis

A much larger part of the support that Israel receives from the US comes from Christian Zionists,

What this tells me is a minority of Jews have too much of a voice in U S of A politics. 320 million citizens having to bow to 5 million jews is insane. Without a media that is owned by the Jewish community this couldent happen.

oralloy wrote:

Very little of the world regards Israel as a pariah state. Only anti-Semites view Israel that way.

Nuh-uh.

oralloy wrote:

As for the Palestinians, if they refuse to make peace based on 1967 borders, they can simply be deported out of the West Bank and housed in Gaza.

Says you.

The only difference between Syria and Israel is that Israel hasent used gas weapons on the west bank..... Yet.