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Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 21 Aug, 2013 02:30 pm
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:

Should the Pals be in charge in such an all-encompassing state, the Jews would be treated like dirt, provided they would even be allowed to live at all.


Because the Palestinians are dirtbags...and the Jews are angels????
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InfraBlue
 
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Wed 21 Aug, 2013 02:34 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:

Foofie wrote:
No Jewish political entities are allowed on Arab turf.


At least not ethnocentrically discriminatory and oppressive Jewish political entities.

It seems that it isn't possible for any Jewish political entity to play nice therein. It has to be replaced by a political entity that play nice with the Palestinians.


I think they play quite nice with the Palestineans. Much nicer than the Syrian government plays with its own citizens. Or, the Egyptian government plays with its citizens. So, why do you hold the Israelis to such high standards, considering they have been the scapegoat of Gentile frustrations for the past two millenia? Are you subscribing to the canard that Jews are secretly smarter, and therefore should have higher standards? The shame for anyone to think Jews are any different from the rest of the world. They are no smarter than any WWII German.

Complain about the thousands dying in Syria, or the death toll in Egypt, and then complain about the Israelis not "playing nice."


You're entitled to your own delusional opinions.

It's a non-sequitur to compare how one government treats its citizens with another. There are standards for human rights that should be applied to all countries. This does not exclude Israel, rationalizations of mental and emotional psycho-sociological disorders notwithstanding.

Complaining about the thousands dying in Syria, or the death toll in Egypt would still leave the world with the problem and repercussions of Israel’s oppression of the Palestinian peoples which has been going on long before the situations in Syria and Egypt.
InfraBlue
 
  1  
Wed 21 Aug, 2013 02:38 pm
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:

Should the Pals be in charge in such an all-encompassing state, the Jews would be treated like dirt, provided they would even be allowed to live at all.


Your paranoia is getting the better of you.

All precautions should be taken so that that would not happen in the one state.
cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 21 Aug, 2013 02:45 pm
@InfraBlue,
This is worth repeating, because it seems obvious that some people on this thread are delusional.

Quote,
Quote:
It's a non-sequitur to compare how one government treats its citizens with another. There are standards for human rights that should be applied to all countries. This does not exclude Israel, rationalizations of mental and emotional psycho-sociological disorders notwithstanding.

Complaining about the thousands dying in Syria, or the death toll in Egypt would still leave the world with the problem and repercussions of Israel’s oppression of the Palestinian peoples which has been going on long before the situations in Syria and Egypt.


From Wiki.
Quote:
Delusional disorder is an uncommon psychiatric condition in which patients present with non-bizarre delusions, but with no accompanying prominent hallucinations, thought disorder, mood disorder, or significant flattening of affect.[1] Delusions are a type of psychotic symptom.
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izzythepush
 
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Wed 21 Aug, 2013 03:16 pm
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:

Advocate wrote:

Should the Pals be in charge in such an all-encompassing state, the Jews would be treated like dirt, provided they would even be allowed to live at all.


Your paranoia is getting the better of you.

All precautions should be taken so that that would not happen in the one state.


It's not just paranoia, it's the exact inverse of what's happening right now.
cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 21 Aug, 2013 03:29 pm
@izzythepush,
amen!
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oralloy
 
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Thu 22 Aug, 2013 12:36 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
oralloy wrote:
InfraBlue wrote:
Repeating yourself doesn't make your argument any less vacuous.

Your extremist denials of science and history just keep giving me easy wins.

Nuh-uh

Nope. When you do your tinfoil hat act and reject all science, that's an easy win for me.
oralloy
 
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Thu 22 Aug, 2013 12:38 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
You're entitled to your own delusional opinions.

Says the tinfoil hatter who rejects the validity of science.


InfraBlue wrote:
the problem and repercussions of Israel’s oppression of the Palestinian peoples

Are you joining the effort to derail the peace talks by spewing outrageous lies about Israel?
InfraBlue
 
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Thu 22 Aug, 2013 09:05 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
oralloy wrote:
InfraBlue wrote:
Repeating yourself doesn't make your argument any less vacuous.

Your extremist denials of science and history just keep giving me easy wins.

Nuh-uh

Nope. When you do your tinfoil hat act and reject all science, that's an easy win for me.

I don't reject science.

I reject your conflations, non sequiturs, and leaps of logic that you risibly attempt to pass off as "science."
InfraBlue
 
  1  
Thu 22 Aug, 2013 09:06 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
You're entitled to your own delusional opinions.

Says the tinfoil hatter who rejects the validity of science.

See my answer above.


oralloy wrote:
InfraBlue wrote:
the problem and repercussions of Israel’s oppression of the Palestinian peoples

Are you joining the effort to derail the peace talks by spewing outrageous lies about Israel?

I'm merely speaking the truth.
Foofie
 
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Thu 22 Aug, 2013 11:05 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:

Complaining about the thousands dying in Syria, or the death toll in Egypt would still leave the world with the problem and repercussions of Israel’s oppression of the Palestinian peoples which has been going on long before the situations in Syria and Egypt.


Your response above is ignoring the fact that you have a double standard, when considering who treats who poorly in the middle east. So, Muslims can kill Muslims without any condemnation, but a Jewish Israeli should not hold up a Palestinean at a check-point for any amount of time?

What pointing out the thousands that are dying in Syria, and the death toll in Egypt, alludes to is the inability of what is important to focus on. No one said that the Israeli/Palestinean situation would be bettered by resolving Syria's and Egypt's problems. I am only saying the two death tolls in Syria and Egypt make Israel's situation just kindergarten compared to college level problems, in my opinion. Not yours, I would guess, since you have great powers of concentration, and will not compare Israel with anyone else. Fine. No need for a reply.
JTT
 
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Thu 22 Aug, 2013 11:13 am
@Foofie,
Foofie foofs a foofie.
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InfraBlue
 
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Thu 22 Aug, 2013 01:11 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:
InfraBlue wrote:
Complaining about the thousands dying in Syria, or the death toll in Egypt would still leave the world with the problem and repercussions of Israel’s oppression of the Palestinian peoples which has been going on long before the situations in Syria and Egypt.


Your response above is ignoring the fact that you have a double standard, when considering who treats who poorly in the middle east. So, Muslims can kill Muslims without any condemnation, but a Jewish Israeli should not hold up a Palestinean at a check-point for any amount of time?

There is no double-standard. Muslims cannot, and do not, kill Muslims without any condemnation, nor do Zionists killing and oppressing Palestinians.

Foofie wrote:
What pointing out the thousands that are dying in Syria, and the death toll in Egypt, alludes to is the inability of what is important to focus on. No one said that the Israeli/Palestinean situation would be bettered by resolving Syria's and Egypt's problems. I am only saying the two death tolls in Syria and Egypt make Israel's situation just kindergarten compared to college level problems, in my opinion. Not yours, I would guess, since you have great powers of concentration, and will not compare Israel with anyone else. Fine. No need for a reply.

Oh, but this most certainly did need a reply.

I didn’t say that the Israel/Palestinian conflict would be bettered by resolving Syria's and Egypt's problems. I said that you’re attempting to use the latter two as a distraction from the former.

You may off-handedly waive off that conflict by describing it anyway you wish, but the situations in Syria and Egypt only began a few years ago and will come to a resolution far sooner than the conflict in Palestine has lasted.

Again, all of this jibber-jabber is merely a distraction, a red-herring in an attempt to draw attention away from the problem and repercussions of the Zionists’ oppression of the Palestinian peoples.
Foofie
 
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Fri 23 Aug, 2013 09:12 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:

Again, all of this jibber-jabber is merely a distraction, a red-herring in an attempt to draw attention away from the problem and repercussions of the Zionists’ oppression of the Palestinian peoples.


Based on the four wars against Israel's existence by actual Arab armies, the Zionists understand that the antipathy towards them has not disappeared, just because the Arab armies were tired of fighting. The Palestineans now are the keepers of the antipathy, based on the suicide bombing history. Oppression of the Palestineans just reflects their previous hostility with suidcide bombings, and after the wall, rockets. Hateful neighbors are hateful neighbors, and your ongoing rhetoric is just inconsequential, since greater minds than yours have decided to make life easier on Europeans for now and the future, by giving Jews a place to be Jewish, without competing with Europeans. Israel exists for the pleasure of post WWII Europe, silly dilly.
Advocate
 
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Fri 23 Aug, 2013 10:07 am
@Foofie,
Infra is a one-trick pony. Virtually every post includes the lies that Israel oppresses and murder Palestinians. This is a big lie, which he knows very well.

Obviously, he thinks that, if he repeats the lies enough, everyone will believe them to be true.
cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 23 Aug, 2013 10:15 am
@Advocate,
A big lie?
How come this link shows that 6X's more Palestinians have been killed by the Israelis?
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/deaths.html

Who has blinders on, and who lies?

It's obvious you have never been to Israel. Stop making foolish claims that you know nothing about.

InfraBlue
 
  1  
Fri 23 Aug, 2013 12:33 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:

Again, all of this jibber-jabber is merely a distraction, a red-herring in an attempt to draw attention away from the problem and repercussions of the Zionists’ oppression of the Palestinian peoples.


Based on the four wars against Israel's existence by actual Arab armies, the Zionists understand that the antipathy towards them has not disappeared, just because the Arab armies were tired of fighting. The Palestineans now are the keepers of the antipathy, based on the suicide bombing history. Oppression of the Palestineans just reflects their previous hostility with suidcide bombings, and after the wall, rockets. Hateful neighbors are hateful neighbors, and your ongoing rhetoric is just inconsequential, since greater minds than yours have decided to make life easier on Europeans for now and the future, by giving Jews a place to be Jewish, without competing with Europeans. Israel exists for the pleasure of post WWII Europe, silly dilly.

What, you’re not going to admonish me to not respond?

The four wars, suicide bombings, rockets, yada, yada are all reactions to the Zionists’ and their European accomplices’ repression of the Palestinian peoples in the name of that “place for Jews.” Seeing the gross myopia involved in that endeavor, the alleged greatness of those minds is certainly questionable as is your judgment thereof.

And of course, and yet again, completely side tracks the issue of the problem and repercussion of the imposition of that place on the Palestinian peoples.
oralloy
 
  0  
Sat 24 Aug, 2013 07:25 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
I don't reject science.

Yes you do. But the tinfoil hat fits you well.
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oralloy
 
  0  
Sat 24 Aug, 2013 07:25 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
oralloy wrote:
Are you joining the effort to derail the peace talks by spewing outrageous lies about Israel?

I'm merely speaking the truth.

That's a yes then.

I have earplugs all ready, so if you succeed in your efforts to derail the peace process, go ahead and whine to your hearts content when the Palestinians all get deported to Gaza.
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oralloy
 
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Sat 24 Aug, 2013 07:26 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
Again, all of this jibber-jabber is merely a distraction, a red-herring in an attempt to draw attention away from the problem and repercussions of the Zionists’ oppression of the Palestinian peoples.

No, all this "jibber jabber" is you denying science and trying to collapse the peace process.
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