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Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

 
 
revelette2
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 09:01 am
@izzythepush,
Your right I don't really understand Israeli government. I didn't even know how they get their government until just recently when I took an interest with their last election. From what I have been reading their current government is pretty far right already, how much further do they have to go?
RABEL222
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 09:19 am
@izzythepush,
He is also a lying sack of ------.
izzythepush
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 09:52 am
@revelette2,
Yisrael Beiteinu is more right wing still and has 6 seats.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_legislative_election,_2015
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izzythepush
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 09:54 am
@RABEL222,
Anyone who has difficulties with Dr Seuss is not going to be able to do anything successfully, let alone remember what lies he's told.
Foofie
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 10:38 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

These guys seem to be enjoying themselves.

http://972mag.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/06/ActiveStills1402941946xj6pz.jpg

Quote:
As noted by a recent +972 article by Yael Marom, an ultra-Orthodox news outlet quotes an officer saying that the same thing is happening during current operations:



[T]he officer stated that the army is intentionally trying to agitate the population in order to provoke stone throwers, which will allow Israeli snipers to kill them. “There was a group of snipers on the roof – an entire unit that moves on the outskirts of Jenin in order to make noise and raise tensions,” he said. “This was actually the true goal: to provoke them into causing disorder, and then put down those causing the disorder.”


http://972mag.com/when-israeli-soldiers-provoke-and-react-palestinians-die/92419/


Izzyla (the Yiddish diminutive of Izzy), many people believe a rose, is a rose, is a rose. And, many people believe a Jew, is a Jew, is a Jew. Israel's Jewish population is, and has been, a multi-national population, aside from its religious divisions. Did you notice that all three people seem to be swarthy? I would think many Jewish Israelis are Sabras (native Israelis) that have family of Sephardic extraction. That might mean nothing to many; however, it means their family likely came after the 1967 war, as part of the agreement to end hostilities. You see dear Izzyla, the Sephardic Israeli population are not necessarily Zionists due to the excesses of Jew hating Europeans (read Holocaust and all the associated "helpers" in the Anshluss), but Zionists because their families had been second class citizens in Muslim countries for 1,400 years. They do not have the same attitude as Ashkenazim towards the Arabs. Some might have more visceral emotion towards the Arabs? Perhaps, they have personal family reasons to?

But, you keep thinking all Israelis are from the same mold. And, you must be overjoyed with the conservative victory in recent UK elections.

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izzythepush
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 10:41 am
And you're another bigoted idiot who's not worth the time of day.
Foofie
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 10:44 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

And you're another bigoted idiot who's not worth the time of day.


Well, I'm certainly fortunate for not being a domestic in your employ. I could imagine the lump of coal I'd get on Boxing Day.
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izzythepush
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 10:52 am
I don't think of Foofie as being Jewish, because doing so would be anti Semitic. Nor do I view him as American because that does a great disservice to Americans.

There are lots of lovely Jewish and American people who do not deserve to be associated with such a creature.

Instead I see Foofie for what he is, a big steaming turd, although I fear I may be doing a disservice to turds everywhere.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 11:20 am
@izzythepush,
Well, he is a is teivele.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 12:15 pm
Peres: There is a clear majority in Israel for two-state solution
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http://i61.tinypic.com/28hd0ux.jpg
Former President Shimpn Peres on Friday called for an immediate resumption of talks between Israel and the Palestinians, saying "there is a clear majority for a two-state solution in Israel."

Peres was addressing a press conference during the meeting of the World Economic Forum in Jordan. Some 1,000 delegates from around the world are attending the forum, including King Abdallah of Jordan, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi and Massoud Barzani, president of Iraq's Kurdistan Region, Walla website reported.

"Reaching a political solution is possible, necessary and urgent," Peres told dozens of Arab media journalists. "What is clear is that no-one can freeze the situation; the status quo is not an option."

... ... ...
ossobuco
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 01:18 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
OK! may that happen sooner than later.
revelette2
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 02:05 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
He has a point, but it is a point which has been made and nothing really happens. I am thinking though, with this new government being so far to the right, they may have dug themselves into a hole. (?)
korkamann
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 07:20 pm
@revelette2,
revelette2 wrote:

He has a point, but it is a point which has been made and nothing really happens. I am thinking though, with this new government being so far to the right, they may have dug themselves into a hole. (?)


While President Obama is still in power, there might be a chance for the Palestinians as the administration has hinted they would not veto any UN resolutions against Israel in the future in order to get them to fall in line.

Nevertheless, if Hillary replaces Obama the pressure on Israel, IMO, will be lessened, and the US will return to vetoing all UN resolutions against the rogue nation. Hillary is definitely in the Zionist camp, and her granddaughter is partly Jewish. Since her position as US senator from NY her ties with AIPAC has been strengthened (she has spoken before them frequently), and she might end up throwing the Palestinians under the bus; she definitely will not do anything to ease their apartheid position.

And yet, the Palestinians are no longer alone. With the Vatican promising to endorse a Palestinian state very soon. "The proclaimed State of Palestine is recognized by 135 countries. The Israeli military commander exercises usufructuary rights in accordance with international law, but it is not the legal sovereign of the disputed territory. The permanent sovereignty of the Palestinian people over the natural resources of the Palestinian territories has been recognized by 139 countries, and Palestine is recognized by the UN as a non-member state."

And yes, this right-wing Israeli government might have bitten off more than it can chew because by their spiteful action, they will only succeed in turning the world more fully against them and there is the prospect of European boycotts against the tiny nation. Israel cannot afford to be isolated with only the US on its side; truth be known, America (excluding the religious fanatics who believe in the end times--all Jews returning to Israel is somehow related to the coming Messiah) are becoming a little bored with Israel's behavior. There are Jewish professors who speak on campuses that they resent their American taxpayer money going to Israel who is using cruelty and apartheid against the Palestinians.
Ionus
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 08:17 pm
@izzythepush,
Dear dizzythetush,
how is Dr Seuss applicable to this debate ? Are you qualified in this debate because of your knowledge of Dr Seuss ?
I understand your desperation to vilify me because you have no argument apart from hatred of Jews . Stop and think what this looks like and you will realise you are making a compete ass of yourself .
Have a nice day !
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Ionus
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 08:20 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
And you're another bigoted idiot who's not worth the time of day.
DAMN ! Shocked Have you EVER looked in a mirror ? Everyone is a bigot except you . That tells me you are most likely the bigot and have correctly identified the problem, your ego just has it displaced .
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Ionus
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 08:20 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
There are lots of lovely Jewish and American people who do not deserve to be associated with such a creature.
Yes, but only if they agree with your plans and opinions, right ?
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oralloy
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 08:36 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Former President Shimpn Peres on Friday called for an immediate resumption of talks between Israel and the Palestinians,

Peres should pay attention to the will of the Israeli people.

They are tired of the fact that the only thing that they ever get for their peace offers are scumbags lying and falsely accusing Israel of never having made the offers. And they have just voted to take a break from this silly farce.


Quote:
"Reaching a political solution is possible, necessary and urgent," Peres told dozens of Arab media journalists. "What is clear is that no-one can freeze the situation; the status quo is not an option."

The status quo is most certainly an option. The Palestinians are being controlled well enough to prevent them from harming people.
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oralloy
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 08:37 pm
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:
OK! may that happen sooner than later.

Looking forward to your next round of hateful lies about Israel?
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oralloy
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 08:38 pm
@revelette2,
revelette2 wrote:
He has a point, but it is a point which has been made and nothing really happens.

Usually what happens when people point out the fact that Israel is willing to make peace is, hatemongers like you come out and falsely accuse Israel of the exact opposite.


revelette2 wrote:
I am thinking though, with this new government being so far to the right, they may have dug themselves into a hole. (?)

No. Not really.
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oralloy
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 09:08 pm
@korkamann,
korkamann wrote:
While President Obama is still in power, there might be a chance for the Palestinians as the administration has hinted they would not veto any UN resolutions against Israel in the future in order to get them to fall in line.

You are confusing your Nazi fantasies with reality again. They only talked about not vetoing a resolution that would call for a restart to the peace talk farce.

While Israel is tired of the peace talk farce, a toothless resolution calling for the resumption of the farce is hardly the huge threat that you Nazis might wish it to be.


korkamann wrote:
the rogue nation.
their apartheid position.

Your Nazi lies are despicable and disgusting.


korkamann wrote:
And yet, the Palestinians are no longer alone. With the Vatican promising to endorse a Palestinian state very soon. "The proclaimed State of Palestine is recognized by 135 countries. The Israeli military commander exercises usufructuary rights in accordance with international law, but it is not the legal sovereign of the disputed territory. The permanent sovereignty of the Palestinian people over the natural resources of the Palestinian territories has been recognized by 139 countries, and Palestine is recognized by the UN as a non-member state."

If a Palestinian state is created outside the bounds of the peace process, Israel should respond by seizing full control over Area B, leaving the Palestinians with Area A alone to form their state with.


korkamann wrote:
And yes, this right-wing Israeli government might have bitten off more than it can chew because by their spiteful action, they will only succeed in turning the world more fully against them and there is the prospect of European boycotts against the tiny nation.

Your Nazi dreams of worldwide anti-Semitism will never come to pass.

And there is a push to include rules outlawing these anti-Semitic boycotts in these free trade treaties that the Obama Administration is negotiating.


korkamann wrote:
Israel cannot afford to be isolated with only the US on its side;

Actually they probably could afford that. The US is pretty strong and prosperous.

But they won't have to. Your Nazi fantasies are never going to be reality.


korkamann wrote:
America (excluding the religious fanatics who believe in the end times--all Jews returning to Israel is somehow related to the coming Messiah) are becoming a little bored with Israel's behavior.

Wrong. You Nazis will always be a tiny minority in America.


korkamann wrote:
There are Jewish professors who speak on campuses that they resent their American taxpayer money going to Israel who is using cruelty and apartheid against the Palestinians.

Self-Hating Jews are pretty appalling.
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