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Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

 
 
oralloy
 
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Wed 20 May, 2015 03:54 pm
@revelette2,
revelette2 wrote:
while Palestinians and Arabs have been kept oppressed so that they cannot overwhelm Israel with their sheer numbers.

Awww... The poor little murderers aren't being allowed to murder.


revelette2 wrote:
It is way past time the other half of the UN Partition to take place and the Palestinians given a state full of their own rights and resources.

In other words, give the Palestinians a stronger platform to commit their murder attempts from.

Not going to happen. Whine helplessly about it if it makes you feel better, but Israel will defend themselves from the aggression that you are proposing.
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izzythepush
 
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Thu 21 May, 2015 04:12 am
It's been a long time coming but should be welcomed anyway.

Quote:
Fifa could vote on whether to suspend Israel from world football's governing body over claims that it discriminates against Palestinian footballers.

The Palestine Football Association (PFA) says the Israeli FA has violated rules relating to racism, players' free movement and where clubs are based.

It has requested the vote at the next Fifa congress on 29 May.

Suspension would mean Israeli teams would not be able to take part in the the Champions League and Euro 2016.

The matters were on the agenda in both 2013 and 2014, but compromises meant it never went to a vote.

The Palestinians have raised three major complaints:

•Palestinian players and officials are routinely restricted in their movement, making it difficult to play matches
•Five clubs play in the Israeli league that are located in settlements in the occupied West Bank
•They say the Israeli Football Association (IFA) is turning a blind eye to racism
The Israeli federation has said it cannot be held responsible for restrictions imposed by the state of Israel, which frequently limits Palestinians' movement or holds up the delivery of goods because of security concerns.

"I don't think there is any football association around the world which can tell its government how to deal with security issues, including the Israeli Football Association," said IFA chief executive Rotem Kamer.

PFA chief Jibril Rajoub said: "We will never, ever accept any compromise, any agreement or deal outside the Congress.

"If the other side insists on causing us suffering, we are not using violence or weapons, we are using the legal leverage of the Fifa statutes. This is nothing to do with politics, this is a sport issue."

Fifa president Sepp Blatter discussed the issues with Israel prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Tuesday, before meeting Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas and Rajoub on Wednesday. Rajoub said the PFA will keep its proposals on the Fifa congress agenda.

Blatter said he had proposed that Fifa organise a "peace match" between the Israeli and Palestinian national teams in Zurich. He claimed Netanyahu had promised to attend the event if it went ahead.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32812288
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Olivier5
 
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Thu 21 May, 2015 05:17 am
@Foofie,
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Jews get no "fun" out of humiliating anyone.

Of course they do. Jews are human beings like everybody else, you know? So now that they have their own country they derive pleasure out of treating their minorities like ****. You are yourself applying a fundamentally racist prism to the world, just like the Nazis. Nothing new under the sun, yada yada yada and all these sorts of things.
Foofie
 
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Thu 21 May, 2015 11:10 am
@Olivier5,
Our health is based on genetics. Our personalities are based on genetics. Our emotional problems are based on genetics. Our intelligence is based on genetics. And, they are all based on current science of each respective field. So, through the prism of the EU, emphasis on genetics might sound fascist. Sort of like two-thousand years of calling Jews "Christ Killers" might have spoiled the ability of Jews to decide en masse to adopt Christianity. Similarly, Europe's experience with fascism might have spoiled its ability to appreciate modern science to the fullest.

I have no desire to convince you of anything. Have a nice summer.
izzythepush
 
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Thu 21 May, 2015 11:45 am
@Olivier5,
These guys seem to be enjoying themselves.

http://972mag.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/06/ActiveStills1402941946xj6pz.jpg

Quote:
As noted by a recent +972 article by Yael Marom, an ultra-Orthodox news outlet quotes an officer saying that the same thing is happening during current operations:



[T]he officer stated that the army is intentionally trying to agitate the population in order to provoke stone throwers, which will allow Israeli snipers to kill them. “There was a group of snipers on the roof – an entire unit that moves on the outskirts of Jenin in order to make noise and raise tensions,” he said. “This was actually the true goal: to provoke them into causing disorder, and then put down those causing the disorder.”


http://972mag.com/when-israeli-soldiers-provoke-and-react-palestinians-die/92419/
Olivier5
 
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Thu 21 May, 2015 12:10 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:
Europe's experience with fascism might have spoiled its ability to appreciate modern science to the fullest.

Yeaaaah, you nailed it. We stupid Euros don't really understand the inherent beauty of a genetic-based political program...

I hope you have good genes, Foofie, but then if intelligence is really determined by genes, perhaps you don't...
Foofie
 
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Thu 21 May, 2015 08:03 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Foofie wrote:
Europe's experience with fascism might have spoiled its ability to appreciate modern science to the fullest.

Yeaaaah, you nailed it. We stupid Euros don't really understand the inherent beauty of a genetic-based political program...

I hope you have good genes, Foofie, but then if intelligence is really determined by genes, perhaps you don't...


If genes did not matter, then Neanderthals might just be living all over the planet, since they were stronger. Genes made our brains larger to process language. Or, simply put, the winners win, and the losers lose. Genes have a lot to do with the outcomes.

Also, I do not comment on Europeans much. They are all, in my opinion, trying to get along with each other after deciding that in a nuclear age, fighting like they did, amongst each other for a thousand years, is not wise. Fortunately, I'm an American. Diversity is just part of the country and the American culture. Europeans are trying to come to terms with the reality of a diverse population, in my opinion. Have a pleasant summer.
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Ionus
 
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Thu 21 May, 2015 08:07 pm
@izzythepush,
Yes, they are enjoying themselves . You stand there and get stones thrown at you all day and we will see what sort of self control you have . Arresting someone can feel like a good job, ask any Police officer .
Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 21 May, 2015 10:32 pm
Israel's new deputy foreign minister: 'This land is ours. All of it is ours'
Quote:
Israel’s new deputy foreign minister on Thursday delivered a defiant message to the international community, saying that Israel owes no apologies for its policies in the Holy Land and citing religious texts to back her belief that it belongs to the Jewish people



And Avigdor Lieberman, Israel’s former foreign minister, had said: "Anyone who thinks going back to the 1967 lines will solve the conflict is autistic."
In a statement released later Thursday, Jay Ruderman [head of the Ruderman Family Foundation] cited Lieberman as stating, "I didn't mean in any way to offend autistic people, but wanted to illustrate the unwillingness of some people to accept certain realities about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and I apologize if anyone was hurt."
Source

oralloy
 
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Thu 21 May, 2015 11:05 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Israel's new deputy foreign minister: 'This land is ours. All of it is ours'
Quote:
Israel’s new deputy foreign minister on Thursday delivered a defiant message to the international community, saying that Israel owes no apologies for its policies in the Holy Land and citing religious texts to back her belief that it belongs to the Jewish people

Outstanding news. I am so glad that the Israeli voters chose to have Israel start standing up for themselves.

When enough people recognize the Palestinian state, Israel should respond by seizing control over Area B.

Let the Palestinian state be composed of Area A alone.
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izzythepush
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 02:26 am
@Ionus,
Most police officers don't deliberately provoke the public to throw stones so they can shoot them. The IDF are not a police force they are a foreign occupying army.

Get a grown up to read, and explain, the report to you, because comprehension is clearly not your strong point.
Ionus
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 04:00 am
@izzythepush,
The biased rubbish you come up with...the Israeli Defence Force started the Intifada whilst occupying a foreign country...even you dont believe that but your prejudice makes you say it anyway . Britain started this mess, you have a bloody cheek to say the Israelis are to blame .
izzythepush
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 04:54 am
@Ionus,
The IDF are an occupying force. You live in a fantasy world. We're not completely blameless, but the mandate ended a long time ago. You may as well blame Vespasian.

Hebron is a Palestinian town in the occupied West Bank. The IDF have no right being there, nor do the far right settler movement. And they do not, as has been shown, have the right to provoke stone throwing so they can murder Palestinian civilians

The intifada is a response to the occupation. The Israelis are the occupiers, only they can stop the occupation.

The facts do not fit in with your warped fantasy world.
Ionus
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 07:58 am
@izzythepush,
Dear dizzythetush,
please stop pretending to be bipartisan and having discovered the evils of the Jews . Your only interest is in pushing others around and feeling important by having a cause . You have no solution, only hate . I hope you get better .
Have a nice day.
revelette2
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 08:18 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Some in Israel don't think the new government will last a year because it is such a slim majority. I hope it don't last a year.


ISRAEL PULSE


izzythepush
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 08:27 am
@Ionus,
The only one pretending is you. You're a bigot and a moron. Just because you're incapable of feeling anything but hate doesn't mean you can judge others by your very low standards.

We've been down this road before, everything that doesn't fit with your fantasy world is ignored. The source I quoted referred to an orthodox Jewish website, before I've just referenced Israeli sources like Haaretz and B'Tselem, but they're no good, they must be anti Israeli too.

You don't get Global Warming or Evolution, (or Dr. Seuss for that matter,) because you don't understand them. Drop the pseudo expert status and accept the facts. You're thick as ****, most bigots are.
Ionus
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 08:33 am
@izzythepush,
Whoaa girl ! Stop stalking me ! I couldnt tell you what your last posts were...do you know why ? Nothing changes . You hate and you dont change for the topic . Your opinion is you will save the world if only you were allowed to run it, being infallible and all...

I bet I understand more about Global Warming and Evolution than you do ...

And do you know why there are anti-Israeli sources in Israel ? Because they are a democracy . Do you know why there are no anti-Palestinian sources living in the West Bank or in the Concentration Camps the Palestinians set up ? They murder anyone who disagrees .
izzythepush
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 08:38 am
@revelette2,
Be careful of what you wish for. Israeli politics is very different from what we're used to. Every government is a coalition, Netanyahu may be tempted to move even further to the right if this administration collapses.
izzythepush
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 08:41 am
@Ionus,
I'm just responding to you, if anyone is stalking anyone it's you. I've had enough playing Dr Doolittle with the likes of you. You can go back to playing with your own excrement while I take a shower.
Ionus
 
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Fri 22 May, 2015 08:45 am
@izzythepush,
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while I take a shower.
Very Happy You alluring temptress you... Cool Sorry, but you are too full of hate and yourself for my liking . Better go back to the anti-war protesting crowd .
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