Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

Look up the meaning of Apartheid. Simply means racial segregation enabled by law.

If the government doesn't control the armed men in uniforms manning checkpoints and patrolling the streets, it's not a real government.

That's also relevant to the discussion.

Ionus is here to muddy the waters.

Yes, Oli, there is a difference between Islamists beheading a captive and accidental civilian deaths in a military operation . That you can not see the difference points to your racism and prejudice .

Didnt your Arab coloured glasses let you see who invaded and attacked the Jews ? Its called self defense . Only the aggressor doesnt approve of it, all other nations accept it as necessary .

Oh, my mistake...I thought you had gone to University . Well, University is like a very big pre-school . You learn lots of things . These things are good . They help you in learning more things . Learning more things is good . One day, you will know enough things to write here . Best wishes .

Damn . You got me . I will have to agree with that . Letting the people get out of the building is kindler, gentler then firing rockets unannounced at civilians . Have you ever murdered someone ? Your friends the Palestinians have .

That has been shown to be edited footage by your Palestinian friends . They had to do that otherwise the world would see the difference between the two sides and we dont want that for our Palestinian murderers , do we ?

Oil money can buy anything . It bought you, it can buy the ICC to look the other way at Palestinian rockets whilst counting the corpses in the local morgue of Palestinians killed by Hamas but attributed to Israelis .

An intelligent person would have found out BEFORE protesting .

Arent they largely the same race ? And it isnt the law, its a property boundary of a nation, the same as any border crossing anywhere in the world .

Yes. As they did. And I did, too, as written. (We had had rather good chemistry teachers at my school in those days.)

Don't forget that other people than the posters probably read these posts and if we opponets don't contradict the blatant lies told by Orlaboy, CJ, and Iones they might believe their lies. I can only stand them so long than have to take a break but I still read this site and when I get over the sickness generated by these racist liars I come back.

I still think that Iones, CJ, and Oralboy are paid provocateurs for Israel.

You have mental health issues . If you think that you are so right that you get sick when people disagree with you, then you have a mental health problem . Seek help .

Israel doesnt need the support . The Palestinians do and I find it interesting that so many Palestinian supporters accuse others of doing it for money . Perhaps you are close to the oil money .

It's apparent that you never got through secondary school.

Yeah, so have Zionists, Americans, Australians, etc, etc. Again, so what?

In theory, but I still recall that you engaged in unprovoked name-calling in our earlier encounter some months ago. And now you seem to be jumping back and forth between name-calling and serious discussion.

On the other hand, you've stumbled across a subject where I am particularly well equipped to address the facts, and am eager to do so.



Hiroshima was Japan's largest military town, and was Japan's primary military port for deploying soldiers overseas. Its military districts were packed with tens of thousands of Japanese soldiers (giving it the highest soldier/civilian ratio of any Japanese city). Also, Hiroshima Castle held the military headquarters in charge of repelling any invasion in the southern half of Japan (which at the moment of the bombing was still where we were planning to come ashore when we invaded).


The primary target of the second A-bomb was Kokura Arsenal, a massive (4100' x 2000') arms-production complex that was supplying the Japanese military with all sorts of weapons. The secondary target was Niigata (another big military port, sort of a lesser version of Hiroshima). The tertiary target was the Mitsubishi Shipyards, a massive warship construction facility near Nagasaki.

Due to technical and weather difficulties, the bomb ended up being dropped on Urakami, an industrial zone north of Nagasaki. There it destroyed both the Mitsubishi Steel Works and the Mitsubishi Torpedo Works.

Before Japan attacked us, Pearl Harbor had been regarded as immune to air-dropped torpedoes because the water was so shallow that the torpedoes would hit the ocean floor and embed themselves in the mud. This was the only harbor in the world (outside Japan) that had such a natural defense against air-dropped torpedoes. In order to attack us, Japan had to find a way to modify their torpedoes so that they would defeat these unique defenses. The aforementioned Mitsubishi Torpedo Works was the place that produced these modifications.

(The damage to the torpedo factory was quite satisfactory. )



Hiroshima:

"Hiroshima was a city of considerable military importance. It contained the 2nd Army Headquarters, which commanded the defense of all of southern Japan. The city was a communications center, a storage point, and an assembly area for troops. To quote a Japanese report, "Probably more than a thousand times since the beginning of the war did the Hiroshima citizens see off with cries of 'Banzai' the troops leaving from the harbor."
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/mp06.asp

"Out of 140,000 deaths, about 20,000 were considered to be those of the military service men."
http://web.archive.org/web/20050525025545/www.hiroshima-cdas.or.jp/HICARE/ab2e.html

"Hiroshima before the war was the seventh largest city in Japan, with a population of over 340,000, and was the principal administrative and commercial center of the southwestern part of the country. As the headquarters of the Second Army and of the Chugoku Regional Army, it was one of the most important military command stations in Japan, the site of one of the largest military supply depots, and the foremost military shipping point for both troops and supplies. Its shipping activities had virtually ceased by the time of the attack, however, because of sinkings and the mining of the Inland Sea."
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/study_collections/bomb/large/documents/index.php?pagenumber=8&documentid=7-1&documentdate=1946-06-30&studycollectionid=abomb

"There were 43,000 soldiers based in Hiroshima, and Nagasaki was an industrial city that had turned out the torpedoes used at Pearl Harbor. Its shipyards had built some of Japan's biggest warships."
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/trinity/articles/closer1.html


Nagasaki:

"The bomb exploded high over the industrial valley of Nagasaki, almost midway between the Mitsubishi Steel and Arms Works, in the south, and the Mitsubishi-Urakami Ordnance Works (Torpedo Works), in the north, the two principal targets of the city."
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/mp07.asp

"In Nagasaki, only the Mitsubishi Dockyards among the major industries was remote enough from the explosion to escape serious damage. The other three Mitsubishi firms, which were responsible together with the dockyards for over 90 percent of the industrial output of the city, were seriously damaged. The Arms Plant and the Steel Works were in the main area of damage."
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/study_collections/bomb/large/documents/index.php?pagenumber=15&documentid=7-1&documentdate=1946-06-30&studycollectionid=abomb

These silly attempts to disguise anti-Semitism by aiming the false accusations "against Israel" instead of "against Jews" does not fool anyone. It is still anti-Semitism, and is rightfully denounced as such.

Every person who suggests that Israel is in any way similar to Apartheid-era South Africa, is a Nazi.

If someone is sickened by US support for Israel and for moderate Arab regimes, they are a whacky extremist and should be dronestriked.



That's the only way to get a Muslim to stop murdering people.



No they aren't. Muslims like to murder people for fun. Israel and the US do not.



When Muslims cut the throat of innocent people, they are intentionally killing innocent people.

Neither Israel nor the US intentionally targets innocent people.



Israel only fires in self defense, and has repeatedly tried to make peace.

Palestinians refuse to make peace and murder innocent people for fun.