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Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

 
 
buttflake
 
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Mon 4 Aug, 2014 08:20 pm
@timur,
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You are so focused on your hatred of Arabs that you make up all kinds of dumb arguments in order to justify your stance.


Tell me what is made up except your non answers and your precious hate word. The word that lets you avoid the facts. That **** is old and so is Islam and its doctrine.

Now would you like to discuss the facts about that and the actions seen daily that supports my argument? That also goes for the six cheerleaders that voted for your vapid response.
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buttflake
 
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Mon 4 Aug, 2014 08:41 pm
HELPFUL COMPARISON CHART FOR JOURNALISTS: The Palestinian people vs. the Israelis


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yo8KgJ-B1vw/U-AodJNQLLI/AAAAAAABXgk/gdBtHWJynCQ/s1600/140804-hamas-vs-israelis.png

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2014/08/helpful-comparison-chart-for.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
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buttflake
 
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Mon 4 Aug, 2014 08:54 pm

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Hamas and The Left’s Pretense about the Deaths of Innocents in Gaza


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The principle is: He who initiates physical force is morally responsible for the destructive consequences of the retaliatory force he thereby necessitates. So says the law of causality.

This principle is as clear in a warzone in the Middle East as it is on the streets of Miami. If a thug grabs a woman and tries to shove her into a van, and the woman pulls a gun from her purse and shoots at the thug, thereby killing an innocent bystander behind him, who is morally responsible for the bystander’s death? Every thinking adult knows the answer.

Of course, the kind and extent of retaliatory force warranted in a given situation depends on the full context and can be a complex matter. But the matter of who is morally responsible for the harm caused by retaliatory force necessitated by an aggressor is simple: The aggressor is.

Hamas is morally responsible for all the deaths and all the destruction resulting from the retaliatory force necessitated by Hamas’s assaults on Israel. Hamas and western leftists pretend not to know this. Never let their pretense go unacknowledged or unannounced.


http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/2014/08/hamas-lefts-pretense-deaths-innocents-gaza/
worldtraveler24
 
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Tue 5 Aug, 2014 08:08 am
@buttflake,
There will be no peace in Israel until the anti-Christ comes on the scene. He will be a Jewish atheist and will push peace, socialism, and reform. He will have an answer for both sides to the current conflict and will be accepted by the world, by Israel and by Hamas and the Palestinians. This will continue for 3 and one-half years. Then he will turn on Israel and bring all of the world armies to fight against Israel. This will go on for three and one-half more years. There will be the battle of Armageddon in the Valley of Megiddo. Then Jesus Christ will appear in the eastern sky riding on a white horse with ten thousands of His saints. JESUS will open His mouth and all of Israel's enemies will be destroyed by the WORD of His mouth. The blood in the Valley of Megiddo will run to the horse's bridle --it will be a slaughter. Then JESUS THE CHRIST will set up His earthly kingdom in Jerusalem and will rule and reign 1,000 years on this earth. Then and only then will there be peace in Israel. The question is are you Israel's enemies or are you one of their friends?

ALL OF ISRAEL'S ENEMIES WILL BE DESTROYED BY JESUS CHRIST--THEN WILL THE JEWS KNOW THAT JESUS IS THEIR ONE AND ONLY MESSIAH!
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timur
 
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Tue 5 Aug, 2014 08:16 am
WT(F) wrote:
The question is are you Israel's enemies or are you one of their friends?


Dumb question. Do all things need to be either black or white?

I bet you are happy that your screen can display 16,777,216 colors.
timur
 
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Tue 5 Aug, 2014 08:22 am
WT(F) wrote:
ALL OF ISRAEL'S ENEMIES WILL BE DESTROYED BY JESUS CHRIST


I expect he will kill also the inside enemies.

As you know, lots of Jews are labelled Israel's enemies as they don't adhere to Zionism.

They also don't adhere to the Great Israel policies..

When I say that your god is a cruel, vengeful, murderous god..
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timur
 
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Tue 5 Aug, 2014 08:26 am
Coldjoint wrote:
HELPFUL COMPARISON CHART FOR JOURNALISTS: The Palestinian people vs. the Israelis


Typical of propagandists techniques:

Comparing how often New Jerseyans attend church and how many cats Colombians own.
buttflake
 
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Tue 5 Aug, 2014 08:53 am
@timur,
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Typical of propagandists techniques:


I guess you would know. It is also a technique to avoid the facts in a matter? Is Gaza firing rockets into Israel an using violence and terror instead of diplomacy? Will I get an answer or more irrelevant excuses?

And what part of wiping Israel of the map don't you understand?
timur
 
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Tue 5 Aug, 2014 08:57 am
@buttflake,
Israel has a dream and it is getting rid of all Arabs in Palestine.

They have been consistently confiscating Arabs' land since the foundation of Israel.

Is there something you don't understand?
buttflake
 
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Tue 5 Aug, 2014 09:08 am
@timur,
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Israel has a dream and it is getting rid of all Arabs in Palestine.


Prove it. I can show you Hamas' charter. And there is no Palestine.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Tue 5 Aug, 2014 09:09 am
@timur,
No, they understand all right; god gave it to them, and permitted them to kill innocent men, women and children - in the 21st century - to take what god gave them.
worldtraveler24
 
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Tue 5 Aug, 2014 09:10 am
@timur,
There seems to be plenty of Arabic like-minded countries around Israel. Why don't these Arabs in Palestine go take refuge among their closest of kin and not their foes?
buttflake
 
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Tue 5 Aug, 2014 09:12 am
@cicerone imposter,
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permitted them to kill innocent men, women and children - in the 21st century


No. That is exactly what Islamic doctrine justifies. Could you get any more ignorant? Surprise me.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Tue 5 Aug, 2014 09:14 am
@worldtraveler24,
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Another ignorant comment! You didn't know about the many refugee camps around those countries surrounding Israel? Probably not; you speak with much ignorance.

Read this article, it might educate you a little bit about the Palestinian plight.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_refugee_camps

You call yourself "worldtraveler," but that's a misnomer. Trust me; I'm a world traveler.
buttflake
 
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Tue 5 Aug, 2014 09:18 am
@cicerone imposter,
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The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA)
from your link.

That organization is a joke. The missiles found in schools and hospitals are returned to Hamas by UNRWA. That is a fact. Again you post biased articles that support terrorists.
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worldtraveler24
 
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Tue 5 Aug, 2014 09:22 am
@cicerone imposter,
CI,

Why is it that you are such a cold-hearted non compassionate individual? You take the prize on this forum for being the most arrogant belittling poster around. Perhaps you don't see it but you are as confrontational as a rattle snake. I have no problem in discussing confrontational topics on a civilized bases but you obviously don't know what civility is. Why don't you just quite responding to me if I am such an uninformed idiot?

Don't waste your precious time since you rule kingdoms and work many wonders! Speaking to an idiot would certainly not justify your time!
buttflake
 
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Tue 5 Aug, 2014 09:50 am
This is what Timur and CI and others support. A death cult.
oralloy
 
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Tue 5 Aug, 2014 10:10 am
@timur,
timur wrote:
Do all things need to be either black or white?

Need? No.

But some things are black and white.

It is a fact that Israel is not doing anything wrong, and is legitimately defending itself from a Palestinian aggressor which refuses to make peace.
oralloy
 
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Tue 5 Aug, 2014 10:12 am
@timur,
timur wrote:
Typical of propagandists techniques:
Comparing how often New Jerseyans attend church and how many cats Colombians own.

That chart did not make such an apples to oranges comparison.

For each point it addressed, it provided an answer to the same point for both Israelis and Palestinians.
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oralloy
 
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Tue 5 Aug, 2014 10:13 am
@timur,
timur wrote:
Israel has a dream and it is getting rid of all Arabs in Palestine.
They have been consistently confiscating Arabs' land since the foundation of Israel.
Is there something you don't understand?

Let's get our facts straight. Israel has for decades been repeatedly offering, over and over and over and over again, to let the Palestinians have their own state based on 1967 borders.
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