Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

@Foofie,

Foofie wrote:

Forgetting for a moment the Palestineans, who are the movers and shakers in Israel?

The so-called "Black Jews", the Ethiopian Jewish Israelis, if I believe the Israeli media.

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@Foofie,

Hardly. The gerrymandering in Texas nowhere near approaches the concentration camps in Palestine.

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@InfraBlue,

InfraBlue wrote:

Hardly. The gerrymandering in Texas nowhere near approaches the concentration camps in Palestine.

There are concentration camps in Palestine? The Palestineans are just less free to go into Jewish regions and detonate suicide bombs. That does not equate to concentration camps. When did you become such a devotee of the Palestineans? And don't worry your ten gallon head; New York Jews are not coming to Texas en masse.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

If you can afford to buy or rent, nobody is going to discriminate based on their race or ethnicity.

Aside from any anti-discrimination laws in real estate, that may be because many people believe that money is a valid social deodorant. Not pc, but correct, in my opinion. Think about it.

And, I still have the right not to give specific people red lollipops.

But, if you look carefully, one might find little enclaves of similar folk in some areas. Perhaps, done based on which homes are sold to whom, in my opinion.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Foofie wrote:
Forgetting for a moment the Palestineans, who are the movers and shakers in Israel?

The so-called "Black Jews", the Ethiopian Jewish Israelis, if I believe the Israeli media.

They tend to work in civil service jobs. The Russian Jews are the political/military strategists. The German Jews own nice shops in Tel-Aviv. It almost seems like each group came with a specific trait to be transplanted in Israel.

If you like being a German citizen in Germany then you understand how Jews, regardless from which original country, like being in Israel. God, even Catholic and Lutheran Germans have their own respecitive regions practically.

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@Foofie,

Foofie wrote:

They tend to work in civil service jobs.

Really? So all the reports are wrong?

Foofie wrote:

Catholic and Lutheran Germans have their own respecitive regions practically.

Cuius regio, eius religio was a principle written in the Peace of Augsburg (1555).
And wasn't followed at least from the late 18th onwards in all German countries. (Prussia-Brandenburg never followed it.)

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@Foofie,

In regard to the Zionists' treatment of the Palestinians, less free does equate to concentration camps, your paranoid rationalizations notwithstanding. The concentration camps pre-date the suicide bombings. It's fairly basic, the concentration camps are the cause and the suicide bombings are the effect.

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@InfraBlue,

This is the fence that surrounds Bethlehem, occupied by Palestinians. No, this is not a prison, it's how the Israelis treat Palestinians in Israel.

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag215/Tak_Nomura/P1010055_zps1295eff9.jpg

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@cicerone imposter,

This a fence that allows Israelis to live in peace. Without it, there would be constant Pal attacks, which existed before the fence was built.

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@InfraBlue,

InfraBlue wrote:

the concentration camps in Palestine.

You Nazi scum sure are despicable with all your anti-Semitic lies.

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@InfraBlue,

InfraBlue wrote:

In regard to the Zionists' treatment of the Palestinians, less free does equate to concentration camps, your paranoid rationalizations notwithstanding. The concentration camps pre-date the suicide bombings. It's fairly basic, the concentration camps are the cause and the suicide bombings are the effect.

In other words, you're not only a Nazi scumbag, you're a Nazi scumbag who justifies murdering civilians.

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@Advocate,

No. This is what causes people to give up hope and try to harm their enemies, the Jews, who would take away all their freedoms and equality. They have nothing to lose.

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@cicerone imposter,

Some here certainly will call that "racism" and "anti-semitism" ...

Quote:

The German government has decided not to give Israel a massive subsidy for the purchase of German missile boats, due to the breakdown in Israeli-Palestinian peace talks, both Israeli and German officials said on Thursday.

Source and full report

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

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The German government has decided not to give Israel a massive subsidy for the purchase of German missile boats, due to the breakdown in Israeli-Palestinian peace talks, both Israeli and German officials said on Thursday.
Source and full report

Penalizing Israel for the fact that the Palestinians refuse to make peace, legitimizes any Israeli move to unilaterally impose a two-state solution drawn entirely to Israeli preferences.

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@oralloy,

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[...]
According to Maariv correspondent Ben Caspit, Israel believes the US may be behind the action, persuading Germany to punish Israel for the breakdown in talks with the PA (Palestinian Authority).
[...]
Merkel has not hid her disappointment surrounding the failed talks, placing most of the blame on Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, not the PA. This leads some to believe that the chancellor acted on her own, without any US involvement towards backing out of the deal.

Maariv quotes another senior individual anonymously, who explains it may not be that simple since in order for Germany to grant such a sizable reduction in costs it must obtain approval from its parliament and perhaps Merkel realized it would not pass.
... ... ...

Source

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Foofie wrote:
They tend to work in civil service jobs.

Really? So all the reports are wrong?

Too few Ethiopian Jews to take a leading role in Israel. There were only a total of 80,000 evacuated from Ethiopia, I believe, and today there can be under 250,000, I'd estimate. They were put on Kibbutzes initially, I heard. They are prospering, but not supplanting the role of Ashkenazi Israelis.

And, your point about a more integrated Germany between Catholics and Lutherans ignores the fact that Germans of either faith "love" being Germans in their homeland. That's how Israelis feel. Palestineans, in my opinion, wouldn't mind the presence of Jews so much, if Jews weren't so darn competent of making the desert bloom, and cities rise out of the sand. Nothing like competency to invoke Schadenfreude, in my opinion.

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@InfraBlue,

InfraBlue wrote:

In regard to the Zionists' treatment of the Palestinians, less free does equate to concentration camps, your paranoid rationalizations notwithstanding. The concentration camps pre-date the suicide bombings. It's fairly basic, the concentration camps are the cause and the suicide bombings are the effect.

Your use of the word "concentration camps" cannot be found in any mainstream media.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

No. This is what causes people to give up hope and try to harm their enemies, the Jews, who would take away all their freedoms and equality. They have nothing to lose.

Says a person of Japanese descent, assimilated totally into the English speaking, mainstream American culture. If the Palestineans acted like you there would be no problems, in my opinion. By the way, the Arab Druze are in the IDF. Being Arab or Moslem not not equate to being anti-Zionist. Palestineans just want their own turf. And, some want the turf that was set aside for the Jews.

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@Foofie,

Foofie wrote:

And, your point about a more integrated Germany between Catholics and Lutherans ...

Actually, Lutherans are just one group within the "Evangelical Church of Germany" (20 member churches, out of which eight are Lutheran)

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foofie says:

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And, some want the turf that was set aside for the Jews.

Ah, now there's the whole problem right there. What gave the Brits and the League of Nations the "right" to give away the land that the Palestinians and their ancestors had been living on for centuries, to someon else? The whole thing, the Balfour Declaration and the Palestinian Mandate, was the last dying gasp of thoroughly discredited European Imperialism. The Palestinians weren't consulted, and they have never agreed to the illegal--in their eyes and the eyes of the world since WWII-expropriation of their land.

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