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Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

 
 
ossobuco
 
  1  
Fri 9 May, 2014 05:02 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I figure the rest us have enough to be sorry for if we looked straight on.

I figure the earthies will war until climate change wipes us.

Take Nigeria.. a tangent, but listen anyway -

I do not mean that sarcastically - I have relatives from Liberia, one I knew quite well and she me; niece's brothers caught up in the horrible in Sierra Leone war. I knew them as toddlers.

I worked with a man in LA, a helper, starter in our lab then for us (he moved way up), from Eritrea, who had a great part of his family have no education at all, since many of the children went to war.

I also remember RG dumping on me for trying to act if I knew about africa, that I was trying to ruin a thread.

The word tsoris is not all about one area but it is the main part of the bagel that is the world.
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Olivier5
 
  1  
Fri 9 May, 2014 05:49 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Taking property of others without paying for it is not only illegal under international law, but goes beyond ethics and the laws of god. THOU SHALT NOT STEAL.

According to rabbis affiliated with the settler movement, God's Law not only allows but REQUIRES the killing of innocent Arab civilians, even children:

http://m.forward.com/articles/123925/rabbinic-text-or-call-to-terror/

Olivier5
 
  3  
Fri 9 May, 2014 06:06 pm
@Foofie,
Seems to me there's a prejudice at play there... Catholic France had its first Jewish prime minister in 1936 (Leon Blum, my hero Smile ), and perhaps half a dozen since then. Heck, if Dominique Strauss-Kahn had not f....d up (literally) we'd have a Jewish president right now...

A Jewish American friend asked me, way back when DSK was still a strong candidate to the socialist party primaries, if the fact that he was Jewish could play against him. I said no, then asked about the US.

He said: The US are not ready for a Jewish president... but [joke] it doesn't matter, because the Jews control the president anyway...
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Fri 9 May, 2014 06:31 pm
@Olivier5,
Therein lies all the problems; the US is a party to those lawless Jews in Israel.

We have become the supporters of their genocide.

ossobuco
 
  1  
Fri 9 May, 2014 06:42 pm
@Olivier5,
I get you, but I think a president (including an atheist or whatever, lapsed jewish, buddist) jewish president would be fine, in California, maybe by a lot, given various issues.

Who knows, I'm from the smartlands.
ossobuco
 
  1  
Fri 9 May, 2014 06:50 pm
@cicerone imposter,
No, it is in part re the u.s. christians with money throwing dollars.

Excuse me - not all u.s. christians, just the loud ones.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 9 May, 2014 06:56 pm
@ossobuco,
Well, the message has alway been clear about the US's support of Israel.
Even Obama's mention of Israel is of our country's support. I know of no president that has denied our support for Israel.

https://www.jacpac.org/index.php/component/content/article?id
ossobuco
 
  1  
Fri 9 May, 2014 07:03 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Yea, but I worry re the wiring (not re the money, I get how it flows) but how it flows from evangelist pulpits in the u.s. for religious reasons to the present structure in Israel.

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Olivier5
 
  1  
Fri 9 May, 2014 07:11 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
We have become the supporters of their genocide. 

Yep. How do you feel about that?
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 9 May, 2014 07:21 pm
@Olivier5,
Nothing I can do about it. Our government does what it wants to do. Once elected into high office, they are corrupted. What good reason did Obama have to send 50,000 more troops into Afghanistan? That cost more American lives affecting all their families that suffered from all the casualties of war. That's a very high price to pay. When they came back, they were not provided the necessary support system, and many committed suicide. That's unforgivable in my books.

How do these idiots sleep at night? How would Obama feel if he lost one of his daughters? He made many parents suffer the loss.
Olivier5
 
  1  
Fri 9 May, 2014 09:01 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Nothing I can do about it. Our government does what it wants to do. Once elected into high office, they are corrupted.

Give money to J-street? Join the BDS (boycotts, divestment and sanctions) movement?

Quote:
What good reason did Obama have to send 50,000 more troops into Afghanistan?

IDK. Nothing worked there, very messy war...
Olivier5
 
  1  
Fri 9 May, 2014 09:11 pm
@ossobuco,
I guess, but California is not the least progressive state in the union either. Anyway, it would probably BE a factor in the general election in France but unsaid. No politician or journal would make an issue out of it, that' a very touchy subject, a "third rail".
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 9 May, 2014 09:42 pm
@Olivier5,
I'm through with national politics. My one vote or one voice has never done anything to change what I perceived as wrong.

It greatly angered me when I wrote to Obama about lifting the embargo against Cuba, and his henchmen wrote back and said they can't do anything, because the Cuban people do not have freedoms. He's responsible for that response.

They're a bunch of unethical bastards that can't be trusted with the power they get from being elected our president or a member of congress.

I'll let this country vote for these same jokers who turned out to be the worst performing congress since 1947. My one vote will never do anything to help.

I'm old, and will enjoy my retirement without the bull shyt of trying to change what can't be changed.

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oralloy
 
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Fri 9 May, 2014 10:23 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
We have become the supporters of their genocide.

Yep. How do you feel about that?

Your blood libel is sickening. You scum should be ashamed of yourselves.
cicerone imposter
 
  4  
Fri 9 May, 2014 10:25 pm
@oralloy,
No more than the scum who kill Palestinian innocent men, women and children while stealing their property.

The casualties of innocent civilians. These numbers are from the JewishVirtualLibrary.org. Of coarse, they are all anti-Semites and scum.
.............................Jewish/Isralis.......................Arab/Palestinians
..........................Killed.....Wounded..................Killed.....Wounded
TOTAL:.............24,845......35,356....................90,785......67,602

These numbers tells the whole story. The real scums are those who continue to steal other people's property, and kill innocent men, women, and children by the tens of thousands.
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izzythepush
 
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Sat 10 May, 2014 03:07 am
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:

So, you want the Brits to take it back by mandate?


Don't even suggest such a thing. Israelis have kidnapped, tortured and murdered enough British soldiers, we don't need to give them any more.
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Advocate
 
  1  
Sat 10 May, 2014 03:14 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Quote:
We have become the supporters of their genocide. 

Yep. How do you feel about that?


You refer to Israel's genocide, and CI mentions, inter alia, Israel's torture. Please show us the proof of this.
Olivier5
 
  3  
Mon 12 May, 2014 09:12 am
@Advocate,
Quote:
You refer to Israel's genocide, and CI mentions, inter alia, Israel's torture.

The term "genocide" may be a bit exaggerated but not that much. What we are looking at is a continuous, state-sponsored, citizen-supported process of deprivation, humiliation, ethnic cleansing, theft, murder and de-humanization of one people by another.

The Jewish State of Israel will end up have been founded based on two genocides, not one.

Never again, they said... Then they did it again.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Mon 12 May, 2014 09:42 am
@Olivier5,
It's obvious they are ignoring the facts from reliable sources and the common definition of words.

How much lower will they go?

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oralloy
 
  0  
Mon 12 May, 2014 02:21 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
The term "genocide" may be a bit exaggerated but not that much. What we are looking at is a continuous, state-sponsored, citizen-supported process of deprivation, humiliation, ethnic cleansing, theft, murder and de-humanization of one people by another.
The Jewish State of Israel will end up have been founded based on two genocides, not one.
Never again, they said... Then they did it again.

I know that "you being a sickening pig" is just part of "you being a Nazi scumbag", but your blood libel is really revolting. Scum like you should be dragged off and tortured in some secret government facility where no one will ever hear from you again.
 

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