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Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

 
 
gungasnake
 
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Tue 4 Mar, 2014 10:58 pm
@Advocate,
Been a few days and pretty much nothing on this one... Did that little picture shut the fools up or something??

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/q71/s720x720/1625603_588459691241604_1882466347_n.jpg
Advocate
 
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Wed 5 Mar, 2014 10:03 am
@gungasnake,
No, Walter, who would like to see Hitler's vision come into being, and Infra, who is willing to lie at a drop of a hat, will certainly go on with their diatribes against Israel.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 5 Mar, 2014 10:24 am
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:

No, Walter, who would like to see Hitler's vision come into being ...
If you lived in Europe, I would get you to the courts for that remark, klutz.
Advocate
 
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Wed 5 Mar, 2014 06:28 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Advocate wrote:

No, Walter, who would like to see Hitler's vision come into being ...
If you lived in Europe, I would get you to the courts for that remark, klutz.


And I could get you before the bar for some of your hate-filled statements.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 6 Mar, 2014 04:43 am
@Advocate,
At least that is more civilised like what other neo-Nazis did: you don't slash my car's tyres as they did (though they already could prosecuted).
Advocate
 
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Thu 6 Mar, 2014 08:56 am
@Walter Hinteler,
My statements are motivated by all the time you spend in figuring out ways to denigrate Israel.
JTT
 
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Thu 6 Mar, 2014 11:20 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter: (though they already could prosecuted)

That is ungrammatical in the English language, Walter. Is a direct translation grammatical in German?

What was your intended meaning?
JTT
 
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Thu 6 Mar, 2014 11:22 am
@Advocate,
Your statements are motivated by your desire to not see the facts presented on just what an apartheid state Israel is, A.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 6 Mar, 2014 02:28 pm
@JTT,
Totally my bad: they were/are already prosecuted.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 7 Mar, 2014 08:59 am
@Advocate,
Advocate now well say that Amnesty International would like to see Hitler's vision come into being, because they said "The frequency and persistence of arbitrary and abusive force against peaceful protesters in the West Bank by Israeli soldiers and police officers - and the impunity enjoyed by perpetrators - suggests that it is carried out as a matter of policy." And that some cases suggested wilful killings, which would qualify as war crimes.

Although the Israeli human rights organization B'Tselem has done similar researches to those of Amnesty, B'Tselem was hesitant to use the term war crime in the cases of civilian deaths.
So it's only a Nazi organisation.
Report
Advocate
 
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Fri 7 Mar, 2014 10:05 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Amnesty International is certainly not perfect. It seems that it, and some similar organizations, have more than their fair share of anti-Israel, and anti-Semitic, people. Those people cannot seem to relate to what Israel faces in dealing with the murderous Pals and other Muslims.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 7 Mar, 2014 10:14 am
@Advocate,
Quote:
Sarit Michaeli, spokeswoman for Israeli human rights organization B'Tselem, said her organization has researched issues of crowd control and accountability in the West Bank and found similar figures for casualties. However, Michaeli said B'Tselem was hesitant to use the term war crime in the cases of civilian deaths.

"To prove something was a war crime, you have to show the soldiers in this situation intended to commit that offence or that they were extreme in their neglect," she told DW. "It's difficult to say something was a war crime without knowing what soldiers knew."

Michaeli added that the issue of accountability was a serious problem, especially because there is no time limit on military investigations.


I suppose this "similar organisation" has in your opinion "more than their fair share of anti-Israel, and anti-Semitic people" as well?

From their website:
Quote:
Don't you worry that you are making Israel look bad?

B'Tselem's primary goal is to ensure that Israel respects human rights in the Occupied Territories and fulfills its obligations under international law. Publicity has often proven effective in improving Israeli policies and for this reason we are obligated to publicize policies that harm human rights and run counter to Israel's legal obligations. While B'Tselem reports on some of the least attractive aspects of Israeli policy, in doing so we highlight some of the best aspects of Israeli society. B'Tselem is part of Israel's vibrant, civil society, working in spite of the difficult security situation to improve our society from within. We are proud to represent this part of Israel to a world which is all too often unaware of it.
Advocate
 
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Fri 7 Mar, 2014 02:57 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
The organization thinks it is terrible that Israel defends its borders and people. The USA has such organizations, which are totally unrealistic about internal and external threats to the country.

Of course, I don't expect you to consider things like that.

It is a pity that the Palls don't have a single organization that would dare criticize the Pals for, e. g., killing Israeli innocents, rocketing and shelling Israel.

The fact that Israel has such organizations is a tribute to Israel's openness and freedom.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 7 Mar, 2014 04:09 pm
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:

The organization thinks it is terrible that Israel defends its borders and people. The USA has such organizations, which are totally unrealistic about internal and external threats to the country.
[...]
The fact that Israel has such organizations is a tribute to Israel's openness and freedom.
So such organisations in the USA are "totally unrealistic about internal and external threats to the country", but in Israel they are "a tribute to Israel's openness and freedom".

Amazing! I really didn't consider things like that.
Advocate
 
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Fri 7 Mar, 2014 04:47 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Advocate wrote:

The organization thinks it is terrible that Israel defends its borders and people. The USA has such organizations, which are totally unrealistic about internal and external threats to the country.
[...]
The fact that Israel has such organizations is a tribute to Israel's openness and freedom.
So such organisations in the USA are "totally unrealistic about internal and external threats to the country", but in Israel they are "a tribute to Israel's openness and freedom".

Amazing! I really didn't consider things like that.


Um, it is also a tribute to the USA that it tolerates such organizations. One of the greatest things about the USA is its bill of rights (in our constitution). It requires such things as freedom of speech, the press, the right to due process, the right to be silent, etc. Israel has something similar.
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izzythepush
 
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Fri 7 Mar, 2014 04:49 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
This is Advocate you're arguing with. He nailed his colours to the mast when he lavished praise on Pamela Rosa, and his comments about killing Trayvon Martin are almost masturbatory. Like Hitler and Stalin, he believes all the World's problems will end if you kill enough people. There's not an ounce of humanity in him.
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JTT
 
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Fri 7 Mar, 2014 09:06 pm
@Advocate,
Advocate: The USA has such organizations, which are totally unrealistic about internal and external threats to the country.
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You don't really believe that ****, do you, A?

And here I thought you had some smarts. That you just had an unexplainable blind spot vis a vis Israel.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 9 Mar, 2014 12:04 pm
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:
The USA has such organizations, which are totally unrealistic about internal and external threats to the country.
Actually, this was noticed in Israel as well: AIPAC, the Kremlin of U.S. Jewry
Quote:
If AIPAC wants to show true friendship, it should stop cheering long and start whispering in the PM's ear that people in the U.S. are fed up with Israel.
JTT
 
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Sun 9 Mar, 2014 12:15 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
If AIPAC wants to show true friendship, it should stop cheering long and start whispering in the PM's ear that people in the U.S. are fed up with Israel.
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“To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal”
-- Henry Kissinger (American Class A War Criminal. b.1923)

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oralloy
 
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Mon 10 Mar, 2014 05:43 am
@Wilso,
Wilso wrote:
Israel doesn't have a defence force. It has the world's best funded terrorist organisation.

Such anti-Semitism is hardly beneficial.
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