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Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 6 Feb, 2014 05:40 pm
@Advocate,
FYI, Whatever you post is on an OPEN FORUM>. Try to guess that one! LOL
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JTT
 
  1  
Thu 6 Feb, 2014 07:02 pm
@Foofie,
I'm saddened that you think you have to kowtow to religious nut cases just because YOU know you are a Jew. So much for the land of the free.

One gigantic Potemkin village.
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JTT
 
  1  
Thu 6 Feb, 2014 07:05 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie: Sort of like pandering to Arab anti-Semitism.

This, right after you describe how you pander to religious nut cases.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
  1  
Thu 6 Feb, 2014 07:15 pm
No offence JTT but are you a red under the bed?

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/eyes-under-bed_zpsfedb637f.jpg~original

Commies hate patriotism and religion-

"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold:
its patriotism, its morality and its spiritual life.
If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within."
-Joseph Stalin, former dictator of the Soviet Union
JTT
 
  -1  
Thu 6 Feb, 2014 07:24 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
No offense, Romeo, but are you really as stupid as you appear?
Romeo Fabulini
 
  0  
Thu 6 Feb, 2014 07:50 pm
@JTT,
I mean JTT, you've been in A2K for 9 years and made 27,000 posts but your profiles still a wimpy blank!
That's why I bet you're a commie hiding under your bed like a scaredy-cat from guys like these-

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/ExIS/spanish_inquisition.jpg
JTT
 
  -1  
Thu 6 Feb, 2014 07:57 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Why don't you spend some time reading scholarly articles instead of stroking your wanker to some goofy Internet war game?

You are stupider than you appear.
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JTT
 
  1  
Thu 6 Feb, 2014 08:06 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
" There is ...a huge tacit conspiracy between the U.S. government, its agencies and its multinational corporations, on the one hand, and local business and military cliques in the Third World, on the other, to assume complete control of these countries and "develop" them on a joint venture basis. The military leaders of the Third World were carefully nurtured by the U.S. security establishment to serve as the "enforcers" of this joint venture partnership, and they have been duly supplied with machine guns and the latest data on methods of interrogation of subversives."

The Real Terror Network by Edward Herman
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Romeo Fabulini
 
  1  
Thu 6 Feb, 2014 08:10 pm
Quote:
JTT said: The military leaders of the Third World were carefully nurtured by the U.S. security establishment to serve as the "enforcers" of this joint venture partnership, and they have been duly supplied with machine guns and the latest data on methods of interrogation of subversives."-The Real Terror Network by Edward Herman

So what? There are plenty of anti-American governments out there, so let's send friendly governments goodies and stuff ..Smile
JTT
 
  -1  
Thu 6 Feb, 2014 08:17 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Your stupidity grows by leaps and bounds.
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oralloy
 
  0  
Thu 6 Feb, 2014 09:25 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Moment-in-Time wrote:
You have confused the first post by Ci as written by me....no prob.....I'll take the blame; it was my fault as I forgot to say "cicerone imposter" wrote:

You should take that blame. When you and Olivier came here, I PM'd you both telling you how to turn on the quote function.

Now you guys refuse to turn on that feature out of some sort of silly spite because I'm the one who told you about it, even though the only effect is to make your posts look goofy.
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Advocate
 
  1  
Fri 7 Feb, 2014 10:59 am
There is considerable outrage and blame in connection with the murder of our ambassador and others in Libya. However, there has been little said about the murder of US diplomats by Palestinians. I'm sure that CI, MIT, et al., will quickly find reason to blame Israel for these assassinations. They would never blame their beloved Pals.

Francis E. Meloy, Jr.


The U.S. ambassador to Lebanon, Meloy was kidnapped by a Palestinian separatist group and shot along with U.S. economic counselor Robert O. Waring as both diplomats headed to present their credentials to the new Lebanese president in 1976. The two officials were assaulted as they were crossing the Green Line, the division between Beirut's Christian and Muslim sectors. Their bodies were later found on a beach. Melroy served in the United States Navy in World War II, later becoming a Foreign Service officer and serving as U.S. ambassador to the Dominican Republic and Guatemala, before assuming his post in Beirut.



Cleo A. Noel, Jr.


The U.S. ambassador to Sudan for the Nixon administration, Cleo A. Noel, Jr., was killed in 1973 after members of a faction of the PLO, the Palestinian Liberation Organization, specifically called 'Black September,' stormed the Saudi embassy in Khartoum during a party for Noel's outgoing deputy. The faction demanded the release of Sirhan Sirhan, the Palestinian assassin of Robert Kennedy, as well as allies being held in Israeli and European prisons. Ten diplomats in total were seized, and Noel, his deputy, and a Belgian diplomat were shot to death. Noel was a career diplomat, serving throughout the 1950s and 1960s in U.S. outposts in Italy, Saudi Arabia, France, Lebanon and Sudan.
JTT
 
  1  
Fri 7 Feb, 2014 06:22 pm
@Advocate,
There is always outrage when an American is killed, A. The whining, kvetching, bitching and moaning drones on and on.

When it's 40 or 50 thousand Nicaraguans, half a million Iraqi children or millions of Koreans or Vietnamese slaughtered by your government it's all just a big meh.
JTT
 
  1  
Fri 7 Feb, 2014 06:29 pm
@Advocate,
US support for Indonesia

from the book

East Timor: Genocide in Paradise

by Matthew Jardine




America stands as it always has, against aggression, against those who would use force to replace the rule of law.

US President George Bush, 1990, referring to the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait

When I think of Indonesia -- a country on the equator with 180 million people, a median age of 18, and a Muslim ban on alcohol -- I feel like I know what heaven looks like.

Coca-Cola President Donald R. Keough, c. 1992


It's clear that the US knew about the upcoming invasion [of East Timor by Indonesia in 1975] and avoided taking any action that might have stopped it. In August 1975, Australia's ambassador to Indonesia cabled the Department of Foreign Affairs in Canberra (Australia's capital), as follows: The United States might have some influence on Indonesia at the present as Indonesia really wants and needs US assistance in its military re-equipment program.... But [US] Ambassador Newsom told me last night that he is under instructions from [US Secretary of State Henry] Kissinger personally not to involve himself in discussions on Timor with the Indonesians on the ground that the US is involved in enough problems of greater importance overseas at present....His present attitude is that the US should keep out of the Portuguese Timor situation and allow events to take their course.

US President Gerald Ford and Secretary of State Henry Kissinger were in Jakarta visiting Indonesian President Suharto the two days before the invasion. There's little doubt that Ford gave Suharto the green light to invade. Kissinger told reporters in Jakarta that "the US understands Indonesia's position on the question" of East Timor, and Ford said that, given a choice between East Timor and Indonesia, the US "had to be on the side of Indonesia." (US support for the invasion was important to Suharto because ABRI (the Indonesian military) relied heavily on US weaponry, which US law states can only be used for defensive purposes.)

In early 1976, the US voiced its defacto recognition of Jakarta's annexation of East Timor. An unnamed US State Department official explained: "In terms of the bilateral relations between the US and Indonesia, we are more or less condoning the incursion into East Timor."

These US actions weren't surprising, given the history of business relations between the two countries. By the end of World War I, the US and Japan supplied almost a third of the Dutch East Indies' imports. In turn, US-based corporations located there supplied the US with tin, rubber and oil. By 1939, the Dutch East Indies were supplying the US with over half of its needs for "no less than fifteen distinct commodities."

W.W.II radically changed the map of the Pacific, with the US emerging as the region's dominant power. US policymakers recognized that the region held great promise:

These areas not only offer many markets for American products but are substantial producers of raw materials useful to our economy....Our merchant marine and commercial firms should be given the opportunity to take over a large portion of that trade formerly handled by the Japanese and their vessels.

George Kennan, Director of the Policy Planning Staff at the US State Department, noted that the US had "about 50% of the world's wealth but only 6.3 % of its population," and offered this advice: Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain this position of disparity without positive detriment to our national security. We should make a careful study to see what parts of the Pacific and Far Eastern world are absolutely vital to our security, and we should concentrate our policy on seeing to it that those areas remain in hands which we can control or rely on.

Indonesia, with its fertile soils, wealth of natural resources and strategic location, is certainly an important area to "control or rely on." In a 1965 speech in Asia, Richard Nixon argued in favor of bombing North Vietnam to protect the "immense mineral potential" of Indonesia, which he later referred to as "by far the greatest prize in the southeast Asian area."

To protect its prizes, the US eventually killed over four million people in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos between 1965 and 1975. In South Vietnam alone, the war resulted in a million widows and 879,000 orphans. It destroyed 9000 out of 15,000 hamlets, almost 40,000 square miles of farmland and 18,750 square miles of forest. Such carnage indicates what the US would be willing to support in Indonesia and East Timor.

Read on as I know you will at,

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/US_ThirdWorld/genocide_Odon.html
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Sat 8 Feb, 2014 11:50 am
@Advocate,
Quote:
....However, there has been little said about the murder of US diplomats by Palestinians.


Palestinians are against the US because they see the American government as an agent of Israel practicing a double standard. The US tells the Israelis "stop building settlements in the West Bank" but continue to give the tiny nation over 3 Billion annually....there will never be peace as long as the US is the intermediary. It will take the Europeans to administer justice because they are not bought and paid for by Israel. The West Bank belong to the Palestinians and the land grabber is the Zionist nation, modern Israel, who steals their land while discriminating against them apartheid like.

BTW, I don't recall any Palestinians killing US diplomats. I don't know what made up the crowd of militants who attacked the US embassador to Libya, Chris Stevens and others in the 2012 Benghazi attack. YOU, I believe, would like the entire world to believe it was Palestinians who did the deed....it would bolster your propaganda ritual. There is no concrete evidence to date whether it was some from Al-Qaeda or a fringe group from Libya or a combination of both.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sat 8 Feb, 2014 11:52 am
@Moment-in-Time,
I agree with everything except "apartheid like." It IS an apartheid state; it meets the definition.
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Foofie
 
  1  
Sat 8 Feb, 2014 03:10 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

There is always outrage when an American is killed, A. The whining, kvetching, bitching and moaning drones on and on.



I thought drones were silent? When did drones begin to "moan"? Climaxing drones?

I could understand a male drone wanting to drop its load, but moaning? Maybe before it dropped its load?
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Sat 8 Feb, 2014 03:23 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:
I thought drones were silent? When did drones begin to "moan"? Climaxing drones?
Quote:
“Our drone looks like a flying garbage can, and it sounds like a weed whacker,” said Sgt. Andrew Cohen of the Miami-Dade Police Department, ...
Source
Ambassador Hoagland said in a BBC interview:
Quote:
"The drones do not suddenly appear over the horizon, carry out the attack and leave. At any given time of the day, at least four are hovering in the sky, emitting a distinctive and menacing buzzing sound."
Source

etc etc etc
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Romeo Fabulini
 
  0  
Sat 8 Feb, 2014 04:45 pm
Quote:
Moment-in-Time said: The US tells the Israelis "stop building settlements in the West Bank" but continue to give the tiny nation over 3 Billion annually....there will never be peace as long as the US is the intermediary.

Absolutely..Smile
Many dumb yanks are still scratching their heads wondering "why did the muslims hit us with 9/11? What have we ever done to make them hate us?"
Bin Laden spelt it out long before 9/11-
"We declared jihad against the US government, because the US government is unjust, criminal and tyrannical. It has committed acts that are extremely unjust, hideous and criminal whether directly or through its support of the Israeli occupation." - Osama bin Laden to CNN in March 1997

This image is ingrained on every muslims mind and is taught to their schoolkids about how America gave the Israelis tanks to invade and steal Palestine in the 1967 Six-Day War-
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/shers-6-day_zps82ff6285.jpg~original
JTT
 
  1  
Sat 8 Feb, 2014 04:49 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
What brought you to your senses, Romeo?

It's the same thing no matter where you go in the world. The USA is murderous, tyrannical, thieves doing to all the poor nations what it helps Israel do to the Palestinians.
 

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