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Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

 
 
JTT
 
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Wed 5 Feb, 2014 06:10 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
According to all the history books, Truman nuked Japan and they instantly surrendered, so I don't know why you think that's a lie?

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Typical of your limited thinking skills.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Wed 5 Feb, 2014 06:18 pm
Quote:
Romeo said: According to all the history books, Truman nuked Japan and they instantly surrendered, so I don't know why you think that's a lie?
JTT huffed: Typical of your limited thinking skills

If you're saying Japan wasn't nuked and that they didn't surrender, now's your chance to set the record straight and tell us what REALLY happened!
Go..Smile
JTT
 
  1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2014 06:26 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
I was much too generous - 'zero thinking skills'

Truman committed two horrendous war crimes that followed the usa's many many war crimes committed during WWII. After the war the USA continued in the same pattern of war crimes and terrorist actions against numerous countries.
Romeo Fabulini
 
  1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2014 08:09 pm
Quote:
JTT said: After the war the USA continued in the same pattern of war crimes and terrorist actions against numerous countries.

Nah, just the opposite, AMERICA WENT SOFT after WW2 and has been afraid to use the nuke bomb ever since!
JTT
 
  1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2014 08:49 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Yup, you have zero thinking skills.

Do you enjoy going thru life wallowing in ignorance?
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Wed 5 Feb, 2014 10:00 pm
In his foreword to the book "The Vietnam War", Gen. William Westmoreland writes- "Washington locked me into a defensive strategy, thereby preventing me bringing the war to a swift conclusion"

I don't know if he meant using nukes or just being given a free hand to fight it his way, but the bottom line is 55,000 US lives were lost because US politicians were soft and gutless..
cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 5 Feb, 2014 10:13 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
That's old news; most knew that Washington controlled how the war was operated. Those desk warriors in Washington didn't know anything about what was happening on the ground.
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Advocate
 
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Wed 5 Feb, 2014 10:59 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Moment-in-Time wrote:

Quote:

Ad hominems have become a regular diet with you idiots - rather than addressing our opinions based on credible sources - of which there are many.

Your personal opinions continues its downward spiral from mediocre to hopeless.


People like Advocate, lacking in answers, tend to resort to the lowest common denominator, that of derogatory expression, without logic and or reason. How intolerant and mean-spirited can one get to attack the physical appearance of one he/she has never seen?! Clearly, we have someone in a desperate mode who feels so tiny. Go easy on him!


Think back about the cheap and false shots you have taken at me. You have no standing to attack my statements about you.
Advocate
 
  1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2014 11:05 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

I was much too generous - 'zero thinking skills'

Truman committed two horrendous war crimes that followed the usa's many many war crimes committed during WWII. After the war the USA continued in the same pattern of war crimes and terrorist actions against numerous countries.


You are so damn boring. Please start your own thread on how bad the USA is. This thread is about other things.
JTT
 
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Wed 5 Feb, 2014 11:37 pm
@Advocate,
No, A, this thread is about how the terrorist state of the USA supports the terrorist state of Israel. The history is vitally important.

When Israel sees what the USA gets away with it emboldens them.

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Israel and South Africa

excerpted from the book

Israeli Foreign Policy

by Jane Hunter

South End Press, 1987




History

lsrael's ties with South Africa seem to be especially disturbing to many who follow Israel's international activities. Perhaps it is natural that Israel has been castigated more harshly for its arms sales to South Africa than for its sales to other countries: first, because there has been for a decade an arms embargo against South Africa; and second, because of the unsurpassed criminality of the white regime and the uses to which it puts the Israeli-supplied weapons.

It has also been said that those arms sales are understandable, given the striking similarities between the two countries in their day-to-day abuse and repression of their subject populations, South African blacks and Palestinians under Israeli rule; in their operating philosophies of apartheid and Zionism; and in their similar objective situations: "the only two Western nations to have established themselves in a predominantly nonwhite part of the world," as a South African Broadcasting Corporation editorial put it. That understanding, however, is somewhat superficial, and the focus on similarities of political behavior has somewhat obscured the view of the breadth and depth of the totality of Israeli-South African relations and their implications.

Israel's relations with South Africa are different than its interactions with any of its other arms clients. That Israel gave South Africa its nuclear weapons capability underscores the special nature of Tel Aviv's relations with the white minority government and begins to describe it - a full-fledged, if covert, partnership based on the determination of both countries to continue as unrepentant pariahs and to help each other avoid the consequences of their behavior.

Read on at,

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Global_Secrets_Lies/Israel_SAfrica.html
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JTT
 
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Wed 5 Feb, 2014 11:44 pm
@Advocate,
"You are so damn boring" means "I don't want to be confused with facts". It's a favorite trick of your friend CI.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 6 Feb, 2014 12:07 am
@Advocate,
You wrote,
Quote:
You are so damn boring. Please start your own thread on how bad the USA is. This thread is about other things.


JTT is a one message parrot. He did learn how to change words, but the message is identical - and BORING AS HELL! He's worse than Frank who has the ability to change subjects.

I put JTT on Ignore. You can do the same, and not miss anything! Promise.
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oralloy
 
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Thu 6 Feb, 2014 01:23 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
Truman committed two horrendous war crimes

Meh. Japan was the one who dictated the brutality of the war and then refused to surrender.


JTT wrote:
that followed the usa's many many war crimes committed during WWII.

No. The A-bombs followed Japan's many many war crimes committed during WWII.


JTT wrote:
After the war the USA continued in the same pattern of war crimes

Nonsense. We haven't nuked anyone since the end of WWII.


JTT wrote:
and terrorist actions against numerous countries.

A terrorist action would target civilians. The A-bombs were dropped on military targets.
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Thu 6 Feb, 2014 05:26 am
@Advocate,
Quote:


cicerone imposter wrote:
Ad hominems have become a regular diet with you idiots - rather than addressing our opinions based on credible sources - of which there are many.

Your personal opinions continues its downward spiral from mediocre to hopeless.



Quote:

Moment-in-Time wrote:

People like Advocate, lacking in answers, tend to resort to the lowest common denominator, that of derogatory expression, without logic and or reason. How intolerant and mean-spirited can one get to attack the physical appearance of one he/she has never seen?! Clearly, we have someone in a desperate mode who feels so tiny. Go easy on him!



Quote:


Advocate wrote:
Think back about the cheap and false shots you have taken at me. You have no standing to attack my statements about you.


You have confused the first post by Ci as written by me....no prob.....I'll take the blame; it was my fault as I forgot to say "cicerone imposter" wrote:

Oh, I will freely admit I've been frivolous with facetious remarks from time-to-time but that was merely in defense. It's not in my character to demean or put down posters from a purely malicious motive, like you referred to me as "excrement queen." Personally, I don't know anyone who fits that description simply because I don't hang out in sewers.

I usually overlook remarks like that because individuals like you are usually struggling to respond, finding themselves at a loss, then attacking me like the uncultivated at a lost for words.
Advocate
 
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Thu 6 Feb, 2014 12:45 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Moment-in-Time wrote:

Quote:


cicerone imposter wrote:
Ad hominems have become a regular diet with you idiots - rather than addressing our opinions based on credible sources - of which there are many.

Your personal opinions continues its downward spiral from mediocre to hopeless.



Quote:

Moment-in-Time wrote:

People like Advocate, lacking in answers, tend to resort to the lowest common denominator, that of derogatory expression, without logic and or reason. How intolerant and mean-spirited can one get to attack the physical appearance of one he/she has never seen?! Clearly, we have someone in a desperate mode who feels so tiny. Go easy on him!



Quote:


Advocate wrote:
Think back about the cheap and false shots you have taken at me. You have no standing to attack my statements about you.


You have confused the first post by Ci as written by me....no prob.....I'll take the blame; it was my fault as I forgot to say "cicerone imposter" wrote:

Oh, I will freely admit I've been frivolous with facetious remarks from time-to-time but that was merely in defense. It's not in my character to demean or put down posters from a purely malicious motive, like you referred to me as "excrement queen." Personally, I don't know anyone who fits that description simply because I don't hang out in sewers.

I usually overlook remarks like that because individuals like you are usually struggling to respond, finding themselves at a loss, then attacking me like the uncultivated at a lost for words.


Your last sentence is basically an ad hominen, as well as a false statement. You clearly spend an enormous amount of time posting your lies and nonsense. The fact that I don't always respond is because I have a lot of other activities, including mone;y-making, sports, exercise, etc. I'm not going to pass up that stuff to post retorts to your endless lies and distortions.
cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 6 Feb, 2014 01:03 pm
@Advocate,
You wrote,
Quote:
Your last sentence is basically an ad hominen, as well as a false statement. You clearly spend an enormous amount of time posting your lies and nonsense.


All disclaimers without any support on your part. What false statement are you talking about. At least provide what he said is false. "Lies and nonsense?" That's your area of expertise!
Foofie
 
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Thu 6 Feb, 2014 01:17 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Foof: I guess you discount the concerns and opinions of 60 million American citizens that are bible believing Christians, and want Israel to not only survive, but inhabit all the lands in the bible, so bible prophecy can come to fruition.

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Testament to your ignorance, Foof, that you want to align yourself with such arrant stupidity.


No. It is a testament to my knowing my place in this U.S. society. Who am I to work against the goals of those families that were here in the 17th, and 18th centuries, before my family arrived in the latter 19th century. You are looking a gift horse in the mouth, so to speak. Here I am a Jew that does not want to take over. Let the Evangelicals enjoy their Second Coming I say. Get it?
Foofie
 
  1  
Thu 6 Feb, 2014 01:19 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Moment-in-Time wrote:

Quote:

It was necessary to keep Israel out in order to keep the Arabs in the American-led anti-Saddam coalition.


Agreed 100% with your statement, Walter Hinteler. The Coalition of the Willing which consisted of Arabs countries along with European nations were given Identifying codes. Anyone flying a plane unable to identify themselves would be shot down. Israel was not permitted to join the coalition because had the US allowed it, the coalition would have fell apart. No Arab country would join Israel in attacking their Arab brother, therefore, Israel was not given the code to fly with the coalition.


Sort of like pandering to Arab anti-Semitism.
Foofie
 
  1  
Thu 6 Feb, 2014 01:32 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Moment-in-Time wrote:

But the NEOCONS/AIPAC control the congress; at least AIPAC could not force Obama to drop his threat of a VETO on additional sanctions on Iran at this time. So the US is not 100 percent under Israeli control yet.


You do know that the right wing white supremacists usually believe that the U.S. is controlled by ZOG (Zionist Occupied Government)? Many of the anti-Israeli, pro-Palestinean voices are sounding, in my opinion, sort of like the right wing fringe elements, when they think the government is controlled by AIPAC. The Congress would not be schmoozing with AIPAC, if congressmen didn't have Evangelicals back home to vote for them. It is just a marriage of convenience. AIPAC is not Svengali.
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Advocate
 
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Thu 6 Feb, 2014 05:09 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

You wrote,
Quote:
Your last sentence is basically an ad hominen, as well as a false statement. You clearly spend an enormous amount of time posting your lies and nonsense.


All disclaimers without any support on your part. What false statement are you talking about. At least provide what he said is false. "Lies and nonsense?" That's your area of expertise!


I addressed MIT. Figure it out yourself.
 

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