Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

@Miller,

You suggest that MIT needs to get laid. It could be that she can't. She may have lousy legs.

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@Advocate,

You guys keep trying to divert this thread from the title to anything else your simple minds can think up. GROW UP!

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@cicerone imposter,

Were I grown up, I would not be debating you anti-Semites.

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@Advocate,

Ad hominems have become a regular diet with you idiots - rather than addressing our opinions based on credible sources - of which there are many.

Your personal opinions continues its downward spiral from mediocre to hopeless.

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When Saddam bombarded Israel with Scud missiles in the First Gulf War, Israel wanted to nuke his ass but America and the west said "No", so Israel complied against her better judgement, and the muslim world took it as an indication that Israel had gone soft.
That's always been Israel's dilemma, they have to do as America tells them or America will stop giving them cash, just as a father will stop a naughty sons allowance..

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Israel would not have nuked Iraq, mainly because it would not have to. It could have largely demolished Iraq using conventional weapons.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

It was necessary to keep Israel out in order to keep the Arabs in the American-led anti-Saddam coalition.
Besides that, this policy enjoyed the overwhelming support of the civilian population which "bore the brunt of the 39 Iraqi Scud attacks". (Source and quote from Avi Shlaim, Israel and the Conflict, in International Perspectives on the Gulf Conflict, London, 1994.)

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Advocate said: Israel would not have nuked Iraq, mainly because it would not have to. It could have largely demolished Iraq using conventional weapons.
Walter said: It was necessary to keep Israel out in order to keep the Arabs in the American-led anti-Saddam coalition.
Besides that, this policy enjoyed the overwhelming support of the civilian population which "bore the brunt of the 39 Iraqi Scud attacks"

"No need to nuke Japan, we can invade them and win that way" cried the softies in WW2 but Truman overuled them and delivered a double-whammy of two nuke bombs that brought the war to an immediate end, thereby saving countless American soldiers lives.
Same with the Gulf War. If Israel had wiped out Baghdad with a nuke, Saddam would have surrendered immediately, and it would have been an object lesson to the muslim world that "nobody better mess with Israel, not now, not ever!"

As for Israelis supporting the non-nuke option like Avi Shlaim claims, if that's true then maybe Israel really has gone soft, or else it's just a cover story to gloss over the fact that Israel has to do what America tells them.. Wink

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Walter is correct. Moreover, it was the wish of the USA that Israel stay out of the conflict, and the USA obviously has considerable sway with Israel.

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Israel is like an unexploded bomb ticking away, and it'll be triggered when muslims do something like hitting Israel with suitcase nukes, then all hell will be let loose-
Israeli military historian Martin van Creveld said in 2003-
"We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."
We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

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@cicerone imposter,

CI: I doubt very much you understand the concept of disgusting. People who steal other peoples property and lands are disgusting, and you support the Jews of Israel who continue to expand settlements on Palestinian lands.

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On the plus side for Israel, at least they have yet to kill millions like the USA. Right, MiT?

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@Moment-in-Time,

MiT: It took a special kind of US presidency, one without scruples or moral consideration to invade a sovereign nation that was of no threat to the country they resided in; Dick Cheney was just wha the Israelis needed.....a heartless, coldblooded repetilian politician.

Every USA administration is, has been a group of cold blooded reptilian politicians, MiT. Do a little research.

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@Foofie,

Foof: I guess you discount the concerns and opinions of 60 million American citizens that are bible believing Christians, and want Israel to not only survive, but inhabit all the lands in the bible, so bible prophecy can come to fruition.

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Testament to your ignorance, Foof, that you want to align yourself with such arrant stupidity.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Romeo fabulously wrong: No need to nuke Japan, we can invade them and win that way" cried the softies in WW2 but Truman overuled them and delivered a double-whammy of two nuke bombs that brought the war to an immediate end, thereby saving countless American soldiers lives.

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Why don't you just maybe for once in your lifetime not rely on old lies, old canards? You owe it to yourself to try to get something accurate

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Full on admission that Israel is a rogue "nation".

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@Walter Hinteler,

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It was necessary to keep Israel out in order to keep the Arabs in the American-led anti-Saddam coalition.

Agreed 100% with your statement, Walter Hinteler. The Coalition of the Willing which consisted of Arabs countries along with European nations were given Identifying codes. Anyone flying a plane unable to identify themselves would be shot down. Israel was not permitted to join the coalition because had the US allowed it, the coalition would have fell apart. No Arab country would join Israel in attacking their Arab brother, therefore, Israel was not given the code to fly with the coalition.

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@cicerone imposter,

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Ad hominems have become a regular diet with you idiots - rather than addressing our opinions based on credible sources - of which there are many.

Your personal opinions continues its downward spiral from mediocre to hopeless.

People like Advocate, lacking in answers, tend to resort to the lowest common denominator, that of derogatory expression, without logic and or reason. How intolerant and mean-spirited can one get to attack the physical appearance of one he/she has never seen?! Clearly, we have someone in a desperate mode who feels so tiny. Go easy on him!

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@Advocate,

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You suggest that MIT needs to get laid. It could be that she can't. She may have lousy legs.

My legs are beautiful, thank you, Advocate. I am married for 15 years to a very successful Electrical Engineer, CEO. Since you mentioned legs, are yours perchance, grotesque? Were you projecting?

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@Advocate,

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Walter is correct. Moreover, it was the wish of the USA that Israel stay out of the conflict, and the USA obviously has considerable sway with Israel.

You are correct in one way, Advocate. The US knew if Israel joined the coalition the Arab nations would pull out. It is wrong to state the "US has considerable sway with Israel." If that were the case settlements would have stopped a very long time ago in the West Bank. The US so far has refused to move the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, Israel's so-called capital. That's one show of strength. But the NEOCONS/AIPAC control the congress; at least AIPAC could not force Obama to drop his threat of a VETO on additional sanctions on Iran at this time. So the US is not 100 percent under Israeli control yet.

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Romeo said: "No need to nuke Japan, we can invade them and win that way" cried the softies in WW2 but Truman overuled them and delivered a double-whammy of two nuke bombs that brought the war to an immediate end, thereby saving countless American soldiers lives.
JTT pouted: Why don't you just maybe for once in your lifetime not rely on old lies, old canards?

According to all the history books, Truman nuked Japan and they instantly surrendered, so I don't know why you think that's a lie?
You'll be telling us the Bible is a lie next.. Wink

The Japanese surrender delegation on board USS Missouri

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/CMSF/Japs-surrend-USS-Missouri_zps5bbd0256.jpg~original

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