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Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

 
 
Foofie
 
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Sun 26 Jan, 2014 10:03 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

You really are a sick git. Any nuclear confrontation anywhere in the world would be a catastrophe, not something to smiley face at. Your obsession with playing toy soldiers means you place no real value on human life.


I have played with toy soldiers. I value my toys.
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Advocate
 
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Sun 26 Jan, 2014 11:31 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

The "murderous vermins" are the Jews of Israel. The numbers speak for themselves. We're talking "innocents killed."


I have looked and looked and have not seen where Israelis are killing innocent Pals. Are you talking about ancient history? Or is this just your BS?
Advocate
 
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Sun 26 Jan, 2014 11:34 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

You,
Quote:
I gather that this would make you quite happy. Keep in mind that, should Israel get hit, it might be adios a number of other countries, including non-Muslim countries.


If Jews are so aware of this, why does Israel have nukes?


As a deterrence to its many Arab enemies.
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Sun 26 Jan, 2014 11:35 am
Regarding a nuke confrontation between Israel and the muslim world, I foresee it being triggered by muslims smuggling a dozen or so suitcase nukes into major Israeli cities and towns and detonated simultaneously on time fuses to allow the smugglers to escape.
It's all too easy to do, and the only reason it hasn't happened yet is because the muslims haven't got suitcase nukes.
Israels response will be to take out every muslim city and town in the mideast with nuke missiles.
Advocate
 
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Sun 26 Jan, 2014 11:37 am
@Miller,
Miller wrote:

Advocate wrote:

. They even kill their daughters and wives without valid justifications.


Without VALID justification? What might that VALID justification be? You're a sick and disgusting PUTZ , for posting such a comment.






There are no valid justifications for the frequent murder by Arabs of their wives and daughters.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 26 Jan, 2014 11:37 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
It's clear you have never tried to visit Israel. Stop your sick imaginations about Muslims sneaking in nukes into that country.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 26 Jan, 2014 11:39 am
@Advocate,
You,
Quote:

As a deterrence to its many Arab enemies.


That's very funny! If and when Israel uses nukes against their Muslim neighbors, it'll also affect their own country (and many others).
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Advocate
 
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Sun 26 Jan, 2014 11:41 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

It's clear you have never tried to visit Israel. Stop your sick imaginations about Muslims sneaking in nukes into that country.


Romeo, don't forget that CI took a two-week vacation in the Middle East and is, therefore, and expert on what the Muslims might do to Israel.
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Sun 26 Jan, 2014 11:46 am
Quote:
Cicerone said:@RF- It's clear you have never tried to visit Israel. Stop your sick imaginations about Muslims sneaking in nukes into that country

Smuggling bombs and suitcase nukes into a country is not a new muslim idea-
"Does America realize the meaning of every Iraqi becoming a missile that can cross to countries and cities?"
Saddam Hussein, September 29, 1994


"Regional nations hate this fake and criminal Israeli regime and if the smallest and briefest chance is given to regional nations they will destroy it"- Iranian Pres Ahmedinejad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel

If history has taught us anything, it's- "expect the unexpected"..Wink
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 26 Jan, 2014 11:53 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Graham Greene wrote about similar in one of his novels (The Quiet American) ... ehem, yes, Foofie, I know that Grene was a Catholic!
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 26 Jan, 2014 12:29 pm
@Advocate,
You,
Quote:
Romeo, don't forget that CI took a two-week vacation in the Middle East and is, therefore, and expert on what the Muslims might do to Israel.


It seems you have never visited Israel. Also, your comment,
Quote:
expert on what the Muslims might do to Israel.
is something you dreamed up all by yourself, because you can't prove that statement from anything I've posted.

It's not my problem you have imagination beyond the reality, and how you mis-translate other people's posts.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 26 Jan, 2014 12:41 pm
@Advocate,
You,
Quote:
I have looked and looked and have not seen where Israelis are killing innocent Pals.


It only proves you can't read or do a proper search.

Quote:

Sunday, January 26, 2014 Shvat 25, 5774

What about those who murdered innocent Palestinians?
Unlike the prisoners released this week, the Israeli soldiers and settlers who have blood on their hands never even served time in jail.
By Anat Matar

The murderers of Nibin Jamjum, a 14-year-old girl, were not released this week. Neither were the murderers of Yousef Fahkri Ikhlayl, 15. Neither was the soldier who fired a tear gas canister at point blank range at Mustafa Tamimi; nor the soldier who killed Bassam Abu Rahma during a quiet demonstration, or the pilot who dropped a one-ton bomb on the home of [Hamas military commander]...
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 26 Jan, 2014 12:48 pm
@cicerone imposter,
By Anthony Bordain.
Quote:
3. The security barrier is worth seeing
Take a walking tour of East Jerusalem, such as those run by Green Olive Tours, or a pilgrimage to the Palestinian city of Bethlehem -- where Jesus was born -- and you'll run into Israel's infamous security barrier.
Israel built this barrier to keep suicide bombers from getting to Israel. It's eight meters (26 feet) high in places and includes concrete barricades, gates, barbed wire and patrol roads. While it has reduced the number of bombing attempts, it has also kept Palestinians from moving freely between the West Bank and Israel proper.
Most of the barrier runs inside West Bank territory, rather than on the boundary line.
This fact prompted the International Court of Justice to rule that the construction of the barrier violated international law.
With its armed guards, watchtowers and fortified gateways, for travelers it can be a stark symbol of Israel's military control over the territory.
Advocate
 
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Sun 26 Jan, 2014 01:11 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

You,
Quote:
I have looked and looked and have not seen where Israelis are killing innocent Pals.


It only proves you can't read or do a proper search.

Quote:

Sunday, January 26, 2014 Shvat 25, 5774

What about those who murdered innocent Palestinians?
Unlike the prisoners released this week, the Israeli soldiers and settlers who have blood on their hands never even served time in jail.
By Anat Matar

The murderers of Nibin Jamjum, a 14-year-old girl, were not released this week. Neither were the murderers of Yousef Fahkri Ikhlayl, 15. Neither was the soldier who fired a tear gas canister at point blank range at Mustafa Tamimi; nor the soldier who killed Bassam Abu Rahma during a quiet demonstration, or the pilot who dropped a one-ton bomb on the home of [Hamas military commander]...



In what Pal or Arab propaganda rag did you find this crap?

People throwing rocks, Molotov cocktails, etc., are hardly innocents. Moreover, is that all you can come up with. You implied there were untold thousands of innocent Pals being killed.

The Pals are famous for basing their troops in the midst of schools and other areas populated by civilians. Thus, it is effectively the Pals killing their own innocents.
Advocate
 
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Sun 26 Jan, 2014 01:14 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

By Anthony Bordain.
Quote:
3. The security barrier is worth seeing
Take a walking tour of East Jerusalem, such as those run by Green Olive Tours, or a pilgrimage to the Palestinian city of Bethlehem -- where Jesus was born -- and you'll run into Israel's infamous security barrier.
Israel built this barrier to keep suicide bombers from getting to Israel. It's eight meters (26 feet) high in places and includes concrete barricades, gates, barbed wire and patrol roads. While it has reduced the number of bombing attempts, it has also kept Palestinians from moving freely between the West Bank and Israel proper.
Most of the barrier runs inside West Bank territory, rather than on the boundary line.
This fact prompted the International Court of Justice to rule that the construction of the barrier violated international law.
With its armed guards, watchtowers and fortified gateways, for travelers it can be a stark symbol of Israel's military control over the territory.



You might, more accurately, say that the Pals built the fence. Israel would not have built it were not the Pals killing innocent Israelis with bus, pizza parlor, etc., suicide bombs. (Good fences make good neighbors.)
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 26 Jan, 2014 01:17 pm
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:
In what Pal or Arab propaganda rag did you find this crap?
That "Pal or Arab propaganda rag" is (in Hebrew) הארץ‎, which means literally "The Land [of Israel]" - it's Israel's oldest newspaper Haaretz

Dr. Anat Matar is a professor at the philosophy department of Tel-Aviv university. She writes regularly for JC (The Jewish Chronicle) as well.
Advocate
 
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Sun 26 Jan, 2014 01:37 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
I'm sure that CI cherrypicks what is stated to make Israel look bad. BTW, CI, there is no murder if the demonstrator is accidentally hit by a cannister. Considering your all-consuming hatred of Israel and its people, I'm a bit surprised that you and Walter have not yet been measured for suicide vests.
izzythepush
 
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Sun 26 Jan, 2014 01:50 pm
The latest, more dead Palestinians.
Quote:
Israeli forces have shot dead a Palestinian man and wounded another in a cross-border incident in the north of the Gaza Strip.

The Israeli military said the shooting happened after Palestinians threw rocks and rolled burning tyres toward soldiers at the border with Israel.

Palestinian health officials described the dead man as a 20-year-old civilian.

Israel prohibits anyone from entering a "buffer zone" it maintains inside Gaza to prevent attacks by militants.

The Israeli army said several Palestinians had entered "a prohibited area" east of Jabaliya where they damaged the security fence.

"The soldiers tried to distance the crowd using riot dispersal means and firing warning shots in the air," a military spokeswoman told AFP news agency.

"After all efforts were exhausted, the soldiers fired towards two main instigators."

Ashraf al-Qudra, a spokesman for the Hamas-run health ministry, said Bilal Samer Oweidah died after being shot in the chest.

Tensions have been high since an Israeli air strike on Wednesday killed two Palestinians in northern Gaza.

Israel said the strike had targeted a militant who was behind several rocket attacks, including one after former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's funeral last week.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25887076

As always, live ammunition against stone throwers.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 26 Jan, 2014 05:26 pm
@Advocate,
No need to cherry-pick anything when it comes to the crimes of the Jews of Israel. There are thousands of them on any search engine - if you even bother. Why do you think ex-soldiers admitted seeing crimes by the IDF? They had first hand knowledge. Are you saying, they are liars too? Prove it.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 26 Jan, 2014 05:42 pm
@cicerone imposter,
From Breaking The Silence. A question to the soldier who reported seeing atrocities. It's long, but shows how others view what the Israeli soldiers are doing to the Palestinians.
Quote:
Birsen Turkmen
I have some questions to ask all those Israeli soldiers who have taken part in this project... and also those who did not. I don't mean to be rude oor hurtful or whatever, I'm just very curious... My questions are these: Thinking back to your actions towards the Palestinians and the actions of other İsraeli soldiers that you witnessed directly or heard about... thinking back to your mindset and emotional state at that time... thinking back to you mindset before you became a soldier and after you left the army... can you see any similarity between yourself, the Israeli army and that of Nazi Germany and the SS? Is it possible that the soldiers of Nazi Germany felt exactly as you did whilst in the army? Have you ever thought about your actions in that perspective? Do you understand what the soldiers in the army of Nazi Germany might have felt at the time and perhaps after? Do you believe that you should be held accountable for your actions and inactions during your time in the İsraeli army? Do you believe the İsraeli people should be held accountable for the atrocities that the İsraeli army commits on a daily basis? Do you believe that the rest of the world and America in particular needs to be held accountable for turning a blind eye to what the İsraeli army has done and is doing to the people of Palestime? What is your true reason for taking part in this project, is it to clear your own conscience or is it to stop İsrael's atrocious behaviour towards the men, women and children of Palestine? Do you believe that the people should hang their head in shame forever and a day, just as it is expected of the people of Germany today? Do you believe that it is possible for the Israeli army to change it's ways, if so how? What can you and I and the rest of the world do to change the way the İsraeli army treats the men, women and children of Palestine?

 

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