GET OUT OF AFGHANISTAN

What is it in your makeup that causes you to leap to display your ignorance, Set.

I think the problem is quite simple: there are world bodies for solving disputes but certain despicable pariah states refuse to join them.
The U.S.A for example. To draw attention away from the fact that they can't find Osama Bin Laden, they go around invading random countries. Only the American electorate believe that the Saudi bombers come form Iraq or Afghanistan. Iran will be next, probably due to typo.
200 of the "high value targets" of hardened terrorists taken to Guantanamo were under 16.
In trails based on Salem. the detainees were torured til they confessed.
In fact all the detainees have confessed to 9-11, shooting Jfk, Kidnapping the Lindbergh baby and running numbers.
America has no respect for its own law. Let alone international law. America has a track record unblemished by success, when it comes to foreign policy: except in the movies.

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So, when a country is attacked militarily, and thousands of its civilians - the primary intended targets of the attack - are murdered, it has no right or reason to retaliate, "none whatsoever!" Got it. Thanks for the clarification. You're wrong.

You're twisting things, egregiously, because you don't want to hear the truth and you know that it's coming at you with both barrels.

"thousands", eh, Brandon. Try millions in SE Asia, tens of thousands in Cuba, over a hundred thousand in Iraq, hundreds of thousands in The Philippines, thousands in Nicaragua, thousands in El Salvador, thousands in [name any number of South American countries], ... .

None of which has anything to do with whether America was justified in retaliating for a military attack on its population. You say it wasn't. I say it was. You're wrong.

none of the 9/11 attackers came from afghanistan - none of the money came from afghanistan - yet , the poorest of the poor (the afghanis) are punished for something for which they bear no responsibility .

it is well known where the attackers came from and who financed them - yet those governments are not held to account .

something strange going on imo .

btw : it was not a MILITARY attack .
hbg

GET OUT OF AFGHANISTAN

An attack using weapons is most certainly a military attack. If you like, I can instead call it a physically violent attack. It is universally recognized that people have the right to retaliate for a physically violent attack on their home.

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An attack using weapons is most certainly a military attack. If you like, I can instead call it a physically violent attack. It is universally recognized that people have the right to retaliate for a physically violent attack on their home.

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- what do afghanis (includung women and children) living in far away villages - who have not even heard of the U.S. - have to do with the 9/11 terrorists ?

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hbg

Tribal Carpets of Afghanistan
To write effectively and intelligently about carpets from the tribal areas of Afghanistan and the former central Asian States of the USSR would require many years of experience and personal knowledge of these carpet making regions. Unfortunately, we don't qualify in any of these areas, but I do have a number of reference books written by experts in the field- and the following is a compilation of observations from these volumes.
This clause will only serve to help put the background of the carpet making areas in central Asia in some perspective, and to help identify some of the more recognizable afghan rug designs and characteristics of carpets from these areas. When one considers the source of carpets from Afghanistan and the Former States of the USSR one must realize that the tribal peoples of the mountains really dont comprehend or honour modern geopolitical borders. Specific tribes exist on both sides and across the modern borders as if they didnt exist. The Baluchi tribes for example, extend from Eastern Iran through Western Afghanistan and into Pakistan. Similarly, the Turkoman tribes extend all across the northern borders.
Herat, in the Western part of Afghanistan, has a history of over two thousand five hundred years and was once occupied by Alexander the Great, and subsequently invaded by Mongols led by Genghis Khan and then Tamerlan in the 13th century. Herat was considered part of the Persian Empire, and the Persian influence in carpet making in Herat is still seen.