Let's get rid of the Electoral College

That's pretty much what I've been saying...

btw, Trumps Covid response was based on these principles.

Leftist hated that the blue states did the worst and want to blame the feds to deflect from weak blue state governors.

Frank, I am concerned about your idea of what our government does and how it works.

The United States of America is a single country made up of 50 individual states. Those states are pretty sovereign within their boundaries. They have their own laws, their own governments and they are elected in a true Democratic method of using the popular vote. Basically, what is legal in New York may be illegal in Pennsylvania or vice versa.

You get that, I am sure. Right?

Our founding fathers knew that if we stayed a collection of individual states with each state doing its own thing that we would be under the yoke of British rule forever. However, if we had a single government that was representative of all the states we could combine certain things and get an independent nation with a federal government that had an executive elected by the states to run the Federal government.

Did you get that last part?

The Executive is elected by the states, NOT the people. Earlier you said that California was just a landmass, but California has specific boundaries that make it a state and that state has a specific population that is polled every 10 years. Based on the population count, the Constitution says

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Article I, Section II of the Constitution says that each state shall have at least one U.S. Representative, while the total size of a state's delegation to the House depends on its population. The number of Representatives also cannot be greater than one for every thirty thousand people.

That means more populous states get more Representatives in the House of Representatives. But, that is hardly fair! That would mean that the big states decide EVERYTHING!!! That is why the Senate has 2 representatives from every state. So every state has an equal say in how things are done! Balance.

If you cannot see that selecting the CHIEF EXECUTIVE of our nation...and the composition of the congressional body making major decisions for federal office and the judiciary is TILTED VERY HEAVILY in favor of conservatives, McG, there is almost no use talking to you.

You can describe all sorts of truths about how things work...and I will not dispute them. I AM SAYING IT IS UNFAIR.

If you cannot see the unfairness...you are blind.

Get that?

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Still with me Frank? I hope so as this a too much typing for you to just ignore.

I'm right here.

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The electoral college equals the number of representatives plus the number of Senators and allows each state to have a number of votes to elect the Executive branch of the Federal government. Bigger states get more votes as they have more representatives. This all goes back to states being basically sovereign. Each state has it's own way of doing things and what you want is to have the Federal Government tell the states how to run their states!

This has as much import as mentioning that the National Mall leads to the Capitol.

The system is UNFAIR to large states like California and Texas...and New Jersey where I live.

IT IS UNFAIR. That is all I am saying. I am not saying it violates any laws...of gods or nations.

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No offense, but no ******* way will a single state get away with that ****. Please stop trying to tell the states that you know better than they do.

VERY UNFAIR! Which the assholes of the right would understand with a vengeance if the system were favoring the left rather than the right.

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I am a Federalist far more than a Republican. I believe in states rights and a small Federal government doing only what the Federal government should be doing.

I do not give a **** what you are or what you "believe." That has nothing to do with the fact that the system, while legal, IS UNFAIR.

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Does all this make sense Frank?

Everything I have said makes perfect sense to me, McG. Some of what you have said makes a bit of sense also...especially the adjectives.

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I'd love to keep an adult conversation going about it if you, or Farmerman or anyone else would like to continue.

Let's continue. It would be easier if you kept things shorter. Handle one item rather than lumping the entire matter together.

The states have already cheated the Constitution with a "winner take all" policy. Thats all the facts you need understand.

Otherwise youre part of the moron squad headed by pinky and "Einstein"

These "conservative" guys simply will not admit that anything is "unfair" — or, if they do, they're quick to chime in with "life isn't fair". And they're so infatuated with the Constitution that they can't accept that the conditions which led to many of its specific clauses have changed and that much of the document is simply out of date. Unfortunately the provisions for amending the document are simply not up to the task.

Digging the hole deeper...Trump's "response" has given the USA, once a world leader in public health, the highest number of infections in the world and the outbreak is growing by the day.

More like rightists see the blue states did the best by reacting early and promoting masks, sheltering in place, and social distancing.

The blue state governors showed strong effective leadership.

They were right to blame the feds for the disordered ineffective response.

Rightists in states with rapid increases in infection have only themselves to blame for thinking, taking the cue from their leader, that they could just "bully" the virus into submission and "dominate" the pandemic. Should've listened to the scientists and medical experts, folks.

Should've listened to the scientists and medical experts, folks.

You are living in a delusion if you think locking down states with little to no infections was the right call.

The GOP is satisfied with the status quo, that is disenfranchising and denial of voter rights for their use. Therefore removing the "winner take all" option would solve most of the issues because it would fairly reapportion and count votes cast for either candidate. I don't think GOP wants this , they'd rather continue the bogus based "one man, no vote basis of tabbing and disenfranchising voters from big states. The GOP is afraid of really big states and with the states turning blue in the west, they are scared shitless.

Baldimo's way would violate the Constitutional provisions for the EC. I don't know what [**derogatory name removed**] proposes but its probably just more shallow brained Bullshit, unless he agrees with dropping "Winner take all" like Neb, Maine had done.

GOP is happy with Stalins way of electing candidates.

NY was the first state to renounce Plumps BS "Its a CHYYNEH pandemic). Ny was the first to get nailed because Trump did such a stupid thing by NOT closing off EU countries.

One NY started up with NO help from DC (until they convinced douche bag to sail the Hospital SHip into the harbor) .

NYers are the models for us to emulate , not the Moron-in-chiefs sycophants. Trump wont even follow his own expert's rules.

Cuomo has earned respect as other states consult with his staff on "How did ya do this"??.

We lead the world on infection and death, and now we are suffering another spike thanks to lacka Leadership from our white house bunker guy..

BTW, where is he now?? Hes the invisible president whose own people have asked him to STFU.

The GOP is satisfied with the status quo, that is disenfranchising and denial of voter rights for their use.

Therefore removing the "winner take all" option would solve most of the issues because it would fairly reapportion and count votes cast for either candidate.

I dont think GOP wants this, theyd rather continue the bogus based "one man, no vote basis of tabbing and disenfranchising voters from big states. The GOP is afraid of really big states and with the states turning blue in the west, they are scared shitless.

Baldimo's way would violate the Constitutional provisions for the EC.

Orgleboy

probably just more shallow brained Bullshit,

unless he agrees with dropping "Winner take all"

GOP is happy with Stalins way of electing candidates.

Now youre thinking like Sweden. Thy too found out that staying open is a dumbass strategy.

You mean a hospital ship that was never needed

The number of infections is pointless as a vast vast majority of cases are asymptotic, more than 85%.

Almost 32,000 people are dead in NY and you claim that's a good response?

There was no reason for the entire country to shutdown at the same time and limit people's movements.

Cases can rise all they want to, 95% of people infected show little to no symptoms.

Recall your correction about asymptomatic people not spreading the virus?

“The WHO created confusion yesterday when it reported that asymptomatic patients rarely spread the disease,” an email from the Harvard Global Health Institute said Tuesday. “All of the best evidence suggests that people without symptoms can and do readily spread SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19. In fact, some evidence suggests that people may be most infectious in the days before they become symptomatic — that is, in the presymptomatic phase when they feel well, have no symptoms, but may be shedding substantial amounts of virus.”