Oh region - I thought you were in on the joke. What I was trying to say was that I shouldn't have the option to admit I'm wrong - I thought you were being ultra clever because you said you could see the same colour (unlike me seeing two) and ultra ultra clever by posting the image (which obviously uses the same rendering engine that was supposedly causing the problem) - even now I'm not sure you aren't being ultra ultra ultra clever by playing it straight - but no serious geek would admit to using vista, surely? Or is that a joke too? Talk about recursive! AAAAAAAAAARGHHHH!!!!!!