@Zippo,
Zippo wrote:
You sound like a Zionist. Israel firster... You've always been pretending to be a U.S flagwaving citizen when all you really care about is Jews and Israel.
Perhaps to you I sound that way? As a Vietnam Era veteran, I do not consider myself an "Israel firster." Actually, I am an American Firster, if that is a term to be used. I believe I just have the capacity to see history in its correct sequence, so I do not blame Israel for its adversarial relationship with its neighbors. I understand that many of the Jewish Israelis were put there for expediency. Also, from my psychology courses from years past, I do not blame Jews for their continued focus on the Holocaust. It is just a symptom of post-genocide trauma, in my opinion.
I am not confortable though with Americans/Europeans that still see Jews as some sort of threat, since today's "American society" has decided, I believe, to utilize Jewish Americans as a valuable resource, so any Gentiles, that still harbor any Judeophobia, can see there is a benefit to allowing Jews to be part of the American fabric, without the historical anti-Semitism that they endured, as other groups have had to endure prejudice in the U.S. in decades past.
By the way Zippo, I watched the PBS special on the secrets of the bible. The fact that Moses did not author the Old Testament has always been a scholarly question. What I thought interesting was that the Israelites may have just been Canaanites that developed a new identity, after they left collapsing city states to the west. In effect, Jews are Canaanites, and therefore an indigenouse people to Israel/Canaan. Do not tell this to any Arabs, or Palestinians; they might not like this archeological finding.
Also Zippo, most Americans do not see any ambiguity to Jewish Americans being pro-Israel, since many Christian Americans are also pro-Israel. If anyone believes most Jewish Americans are for Israel first, he/she is sadly mistaken, I believe, since three-quarters of American Jews voted for Obama, and we know Obama was campaigning on a more even-handed approach to the Middle East. Perhaps, most of the one-quarter of the Jewish Americans that voted for McCain (myself included) value his politics, and Sarah Palin's politics. I believe it is possible that American Jews actually can value a politician for his/her non-Israeli political position. Do you?
And just between us Zippo, due to a level of discomfort, I would not associate with Israelis, just as I would not associate with Arabs, Russians, Asians, or any other groups of foreigners that I have no childhood experience with. Being much older than yourself, I believe, I am only comfortable with the demographic I grew up with in NYC (who were mostly native New Yorkers). Sorry, for being so old-fashioned.