California Voters Approve Gay-Marriage Ban

Oh dearie,dearie me!!! Have they all been blaming the Catholic Church all these years thanks to wonky history lessons conducted at great expense and considerable amounts of trouble.

All Church doctrine regarding sexual matters has a political and economic derivation. Homosexuals should be arguing that modern circumstances permit relaxation of doctrines in this important area of social life and then we can get back to flat out promiscuity as befits an organism with a series of common ancestors in the animal world and which allows Media and the legal profession to inherit the earth as the tangled web is woven.

Justice and equality have nothing to do with it.

The Zulus, before Christianity, demanded that a man must "dip his spear in the blood of the enemy" before being allowed to enjoy a woman. What penalties they imposed for infractions, or circumventions involving enjoying a man, I don't know. Since Christianity came to South Africa such rules have been considerably relaxed.

It is a serious error of judgement to imagine that religious bigotry and hate are the cause of the restrictions placed on homosexuals in the past. But it is understandable because it allows homosexuals to concentrate on their straw man and avoid facing the real issues.

You don’t have to sit on the guys dong, there’s plenty of other holes. Have him stick it in your ear, after reading some of your post I imagine there’s plenty of room between them. LOL

End of Homosexual Acceptance in Roman Empire:

“305- 306 Council of Elvira (now Granada, Spain). This council was representative of the Western European Church and among other things, it barred homosexuals the right to Communion.” ????

Sounds like the doings of the church to me!

No doubt you understand the complex moral issues involved as you stick your dick into a **** hole.. do you feel dominant then ? Or just selfishly gratified ? Do you dread him taking his turn or do you like being dominated ?

Just what exactly do you think there is about being a gluttonous pig that makes you better ?

Why are you homosexual ? Have you ever bothered to find out ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synod_of_Elvira

Really ??

Then you are easily led .

Ionus I think that he may be speaking over our heads about something me and you can not relate to because we are heterosexual!

They would view their acts as we would view ours with the opposite sex!

I hope that you are correct and that he is gay and if not I apologize to him because I am in a rush to finish up my post tonight so I may have made some mistakes!

It is odd the the most vocally outspoken guys here against homosexuality are guys who are single, they are sexist, chauvinist and no woman in their right mind would ever want to procreate and possibly create a copy of them to plague the next generation of reasonably minded individuals.

Perhaps the best thing for them is to find another man who is like them...

I am not against people who are born homosexual . I am against manufactured homosexuality because of the damage it does to lives .

Incidentally, I have no trouble attracting women and I have 5 kids .

I have decided, after careful thought, to add another pillar to my marriage pillars...

To refresh:
equality, divorce, consent, love, virtue and honesty.

Does anyone want to take a guess as to what it might be?

Your tortured denial of self speaks volumes.

Well, since no one wants to take a guess at this I will just say what I have been thinking

I think "forgiveness" is a vital part of marriage and should be included as a pillar. Forgiveness is a part of life also but when people become partners often perfection is expected, some things cannot be forgiven but overall I think forgiveness is part of what makes a marriage last.

Before I got married I was given the advise that the most important skill to learn in marriage is to know what to ignore/forgive and what not to....which was a very good point.

Actually I like to wrestle for the position, loser is on the bottom. And to answer your other question, I was born gay just like you were, only I’m out of the closet and you’re a late bloomer.

Exactly what part of myself is being tortuously denied ?

If we were discussing someone arguing you cant have too much food then your position of gluttony would be obvious . But make no mistake, in the sex world you are a fat pig .

What makes you think I was born homosexual ?

I dont think the word "gay" is appropriate after the homosexual community had to follow coffin after coffin to the graveside . Nothing "gay" about it .

So you have a wife, five kids, hopefully a fulltime job, where to you find the time to post moronic remarks on a message? I feel sorry for your family.

What does finding the time to post messages have to do with whether they are moronic or not? Which said-- do you only approve of messages being posted by unemployed singles who have not yet successfully mated: in the Darwinian sense?

Where on earth does a handsome young man with no ties find time to do anything but indulge his sensuality? When I was in that phase I hardly had the time to take in nutrient such were the obstacles placed in my way by the female sex in order to test my qualities.

One of the problems with homosexuality is that it is too easy. Or so I gather from the reports I have read about a wink getting the business done in those bars where homosexuals gather. A fetching glance. A nod.

No flirting. No seduction. No frilly, flouncy petticoats. No delerium. No madness. No agonies. No irony. Terrible songs.

It's like coshing ants with a hammer and thinking you're big-game hunting.

How is the interest kept up when the domination/submission dynamics have no mystical underpinning. It can only be a sort of office politics surely. One might submit to a lady of culture and refinement in deference to the timeless superiority of the feminine with some sort of formal ritual but how can one submit to another man. And half needs be in submission mode. Men are supposed to compete with each other at doing things--not at looking good. Boxers would sooner get knocked out than submit.

Submitting to a lady is a whole other category of philosophical thought than submitting to a man. It is that difference which, it seems to me, explains the cultural discrimination against homosexuality rather than the homosexuality itself.

Or do you think that the feminine is not superior and that the only sex worthy of your attention is your own?

Given what is believed to be the gay mans habit of promiscuity it appears there is not much to keep the interest in a single sex partner. This is an area of study that science has been scared off of, but there were studies in the 70's which showed that gay men on average have on average many multiples the lifetime average of hetro men. There are gays who argue that this is changing due to the increasingly ability of gay men tomate with each other, but till science gets on the case we simply do not know.

A biased study for sure! How many hetero people engage in a) extramarital sex, b) engage with prostitutes, and c) commit sex (related) crimes?

I know teen pregnancies are on the decline, but that's not because they're having less sex.