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California Voters Approve Gay-Marriage Ban

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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2011 03:22 pm
@RexRed,
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What, heterosexuals have standards?


Well Rex--they are not snobs. I get the sense that the sort of standards I have put up with at times in heterosexual confrontations would not be tolerated by homosexuals. Homosexuals seem to be well educated and adopt behaviours in public which are very polite. They seem eager to please whereas females being approached by a heterosexual male are notoriously difficult in that regard.

I've often thought how much trouble, expense, risk and aggravation I would have avoided if I had been a homosexual.



RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2011 03:36 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

Quote:
What, heterosexuals have standards?


Well Rex--they are not snobs. I get the sense that the sort of standards I have put up with at times in heterosexual confrontations would not be tolerated by homosexuals. Homosexuals seem to be well educated and adopt behaviours in public which are very polite. They seem eager to please whereas females being approached by a heterosexual male are notoriously difficult in that regard.

I've often thought how much trouble, expense, risk and aggravation I would have avoided if I had been a homosexual.



Anyone can lower their standards. When this occurs it is the cost that wins in the end. Many live by their own standards and expect others to live by god's standards.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2011 04:05 pm
@RexRed,
Would you please use a little more detail about how {It is the cost that wins in the end} for those of us who may be slow witted?


spendius
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2011 04:52 pm
@reasoning logic,
Yes--please do Rex. Avoiding dealing with females must be very advantageous from an economic point of view.

Ionus is the man for the standards.
RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2011 08:07 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Would you please use a little more detail about how {It is the cost that wins in the end} for those of us who may be slow witted?





Whether it be eating healthy or not being sexually promiscuous there is a natural balance to life and eventually life catches up with us. Smile
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2011 08:12 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

Yes--please do Rex. Avoiding dealing with females must be very advantageous from an economic point of view.

Ionus is the man for the standards.


Homosexuals often marry and will their belonging to their same sex spouse. Later this "marriage" is contested by "family" members of the dead spouse. After months of wrangling in the courts much of what is left to their gay spouse is eaten up by court costs and lawyer bills. The grass is always greener on amply watered lawns.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 2 Apr, 2011 09:21 am
@spendius,
Your quote:

I've often thought how much trouble, expense, risk and aggravation I would have avoided if I had been a homosexual.

I do find this a bit odd for you Spendius! Did you really often think about this? Really?

The reason I ask is because I thought that a sexual preference or desire is something that comes from the unconscious mind! Kind of like an emotion, something that is not thought or considered it just "is" for other reasons! Do you think or decide whether you are going to be happy or sad or does this phenomenon come on by it self?

RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 2 Apr, 2011 05:01 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Your quote:

I've often thought how much trouble, expense, risk and aggravation I would have avoided if I had been a homosexual.

I do find this a bit odd for you Spendius! Did you really often think about this? Really?

The reason I ask is because I thought that a sexual preference or desire is something that comes from the unconscious mind! Kind of like an emotion, something that is not thought or considered it just "is" for other reasons! Do you think or decide whether you are going to be happy or sad or does this phenomenon come on by it self?


Very good point RL, I find it nearly impossible to curb my emotions, especially when they involve someone I love and who has reciprocated that love in a profound and romantic way.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sat 2 Apr, 2011 05:08 pm
@reasoning logic,
Quote:
The reason I ask is because I thought that a sexual preference or desire is something that comes from the unconscious mind!


That suggests to me rl that you need some more lessons in reasoning logic.

What is an "unconscious mind"? One shouldn't be bandying terms about unless one knows what they mean. Not in company where critical analysis is a valued concept.

reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 2 Apr, 2011 06:19 pm
@spendius,
I do agree even the bible says that "when one thinks to himself that he knows any thing at all that he knows it not as he ought! Maybe I have that wrong as I do get much wrong in my understanding of truth! Do you?


Would you please give me the lessons in logical reasoning that you have suggested that I needed?

I am all ears and do appreciate any understanding of logic that anyone is willing to share!
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2011 12:51 am
Sometimes logic is not necessary, just intuition.

reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2011 01:12 pm
@RexRed,
Yes I do think you are correct RexRed emotions are one of my favorite parts of life but I do try to logically consider what is taking place.
RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2011 08:22 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Yes I do think you are correct RexRed emotions are one of my favorite parts of life but I do try to logically consider what is taking place.


This is how I see it as to what is taking place behind the scenes of emotions.

We are presented with choices as humans. We perceive choices and we process those choices we do not always act upon those choices. We just know they are there. Time is often required before we can fulfill our choices. Where we build an "energy" inside the will. This energy builds and the mind is forced to make a decision. This latent energy is also evidence by other forms of expression.

Deep within the mind is the heart. The heart is center of the being. The being makes decision based upon the will. Yet the will is not just one thing.

One part of the will is where we make a commitment. We commit to an idea. Well, we commit to many ideas and only a few ideas succeed. For instance all marriages start with commitments.

The reason they succeed is because of another part of the will and it is the heart, commitments never succeed without the heart.

And thirdly is the part of the will that acts. For the heart believes but must then act.

So we respond to choices with the commitments, heart and acts of the will.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 02:29 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/irene-monroe/malcolm-x-was-gayforpay_b_845979.html

My impression of Malcolm is that he seemed to just flow along with the times. I am no better to criticize him but, he seemed to be all over the place with his ideology and this is what make any final conclusions to his philop0sophy on life suspect. This latest revelation of him being a part of the gay community gives me a much greater respect actually for him. It is also an egregious indictment on our government that has a sworn duty to protect its citizens irregardless of personal allegations and prejudices.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 02:49 pm
@RexRed,
I did study some of him and I came to the conclusion that he realized that he was hanging out with the wrong gang and wanted to reform but some gangs just will not let bygones be bygones so to speak!
RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 04:39 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

I did study some of him and I came to the conclusion that he realized that he was hanging out with the wrong gang and wanted to reform but some gangs just will not let bygones be bygones so to speak!


His life seemed to always be in transition and his ideas were hard to focus upon because he was an unpredictable chameleon of sorts.

Was it all for the money and fame or was there actual substance to his ideas?

He seemed to change as easily as putting on a new suit. I find this new revelation in X's life more humanizing and genuine.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 04:43 pm
@RexRed,
You may be correct in your view as I did not study him all that well!
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2011 04:49 pm
http://theurbandaily.com/gossip-news/jazzyf/did-you-know-biggies-best-friend-was-gay/?omcamp=EMC-CVNL

This is not gay blacks week just happen to have two out of the closet articles back to back.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 14 Apr, 2011 06:43 pm
http://www.hrcbackstory.org/2011/03/u-s-sens-chuck-schumer-and-kirsten-gillibrand-are-new-yorkers-for-marriage-equality/?utm_source=Convio&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Video-Feature-Link&utm_campaign=HRCnews-April-2011
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 15 Apr, 2011 02:46 pm
@RexRed,
You are certainly well read RexRed!
 

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