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California Voters Approve Gay-Marriage Ban

 
 
DrewDad
 
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Reply Sat 15 Aug, 2009 08:34 am
@Diest TKO,
Details here: http://able2know.org/topic/134909-1
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 12 Sep, 2009 03:57 pm
My ex bi boyfriend just killed himself in jail. I can't deal with the sadness.
RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 12 Sep, 2009 04:00 pm
I will love you Victor Galambos FOREVER.
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engineer
 
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Reply Sat 12 Sep, 2009 04:55 pm
@RexRed,
Sorry for your loss Rex.
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Sat 12 Sep, 2009 05:50 pm
@RexRed,
That's terrible. I'm sorry for your loss.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 12 Sep, 2009 11:07 pm
Thanks for the condolences. Nothing but time and dear friends will heal this hurt.
Diest TKO
 
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Reply Sat 12 Sep, 2009 11:46 pm
@RexRed,
Do you know why he did it? Was his suicide related to his sexuality? Was he being harassed or assaulted?

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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 12 Sep, 2009 11:49 pm
@RexRed,
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My ex bi boyfriend just killed himself in jail. I can't deal with the sadness.


This is a very difficult time for you, Rex. I'm so sorry that this has happened.
RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 13 Sep, 2009 12:06 am
@msolga,
Yes, it is a very difficult time... I can help but think of his hurt over my own. His mother must be terribly distrait too. I can't even imagine. The world has lost a beautiful soul. I just don't know what to do with all of this sadness. It is just too much to process I just feel angry and bitter. I need to go hide myself for a while. I wasn't even told the news was so bad. I just found out a few days ago. I have another angel in heaven.
Diest TKO
 
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Reply Sun 13 Sep, 2009 12:14 am
@RexRed,
You do music right? Maybe to help process and express some of these emotions, you should do something constructive and positive? I know it helps me in times of darkness ans sorrow.

Don't go reclusive though. It's okay to let this suck exactly as bad as it does, and you don't have to hide away. I do understand that solitude can be cleansing to though. Just don't go into full hermitage.

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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 13 Sep, 2009 01:03 am
@Diest TKO,
Thanks for the good advice TKO. Victor and I wrote a song together. Perhaps it is time to record that song. The title is sadly, "A Place Where We Can Be"... Sad
jespah
 
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Reply Sun 13 Sep, 2009 07:16 am
@RexRed,
I'm very sorry for your loss. Hang in there.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sun 13 Sep, 2009 08:41 am
Sorry for your loss Rex. As was once said, "Sometimes there just aren't enough rocks." And sometimes we just can't know why. But you seem to know your friend and you seem to know he is in a better place. I pray that knowing that will help.
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Sun 13 Sep, 2009 10:12 am
@RexRed,
my thoughts are with you rex.

RIP

his memory will be a part of you forever. may time ease your pain, and peace be with you as well.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 14 Sep, 2009 11:05 am
You are all very good to me... I went from complete anguish and heartache four days ago to now only a few tear filled breakdowns every few hours. I feel guilty for mourning so hard because I feel I am not considering what poor Victor went through. I feel that all I can seem to see is my own selfish sadness of living without him. I guess in times like these we find we are human after all and not purely without fault.

Has anyone heard of prisons in the US withholding badly needed medications from inmates? It seems this may have been what happened to Victor. Victor was a very stubborn young man, yes, yet everyone close to him knew he needed to be on his medications or Victor would lose his grip on reality. I used to have a divided opinion about psychotropic medications but now I think I understand the great importance they are to those suffering from certain mental disorders.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 30 Oct, 2009 11:04 am
The vote for gay marriage is about to happen in Maine. Heteros are frightened that they might have to share marriage with gays and lesbians.

I have something to say to these heteros. How about some of your own medicine. Your exclusionary club of bigotry is about to be infiltrated.

I had my ears boxed, ran from my school so many times crying, I had snowballs, apples and even rocks thrown at me by the kids. Bullies "attempted" to beat me up while the other kids looked on and helped the bullies. Even girls tried to beat me up. Much like I have been treated here too. I have tough skin and a suspicious heart. No friends who would admit to caring about me let alone loving me. Teachers and principles would not shield me from other kids and my family doesn't even know I exist. My mom was the only one who stood by me.

WHY ARE PEOPLE SO CRUEL? Because they are part of the same christian right that now is attempting to block gay marriage.

The yes on 1 folks say that children will be taught about homosexuality in schools... Well they already are taught about homosexuality in schools.

Unlike my school where they were taught that homosexuals were sick devil spirit ridden souls that were gonna burn in hell.

Take this scenario.

A man leaves his girlfriend and the mother of his kids... He marries another woman. His children are given to him because of abuse by the girlfriend/mother. (Yes heteros sometimes abuse their children) After a while he finds out that his new wife is a lesbian and does not love him. Then he realizes he is bisexual. He finds a man who adores him and loves his children as his own flesh and blood. But the schools only recognize the marriage he has with "a woman" (who is not even the mother) who does not really love him nor does she care for his children from the other woman. They don't even kiss and deep inside he is hurting for someone to complete his life. Yet the narrow Maine marriage law based on bigotry is standing in the way. So the law says he is better off with a lesbian wife who doesn't love him or his kids (cuz marriage is only between a man and a woman) than to be with a man who loves him and would share fully in his parental duties. So if he were to leave his lesbian wife for a man he might lose his children. Does this sound fair?Would the kids be happier with two fathers who love them than a man and woman where only one parent REALLY loves them?

Marriage equality under the law, END THE DISCRIMINATION...





Diest TKO
 
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Reply Fri 30 Oct, 2009 12:11 pm
@RexRed,
Long time Rex. Where you been?

I haven't heard anything that makes me think that ME will shoot this down.

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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 30 Oct, 2009 03:30 pm
@Diest TKO,
Nothing is for sure I have learned to live with many failures. I hope to see marriage equality in my state in my lifetime before I am too old to enjoy the benefits of a same sex marriage. If we lose I will go home and cry my heart out... If we win I will invite you all to the wedding. Smile

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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 30 Oct, 2009 04:58 pm
Should second graders be taught about homosexual marriage?

Well I remember having homosexual fantasies before I was five years old. I was unaware that they were such but my mother knew. These acts were simply fantasies not involving another male person directly but indirectly.

I developed a lisp one day at around age 5 and my parents sent me to SSsssspeech ClassssSSS.

As I got older I dropped the lisp and became a straight acting gay person.

I did not know what made me different and my classmates were stunned by the attention getting antics I perpetrated just because I felt different.

I could have used some straight facts about my sexuality at those times but my family was too taboo about the subject and others had only hate. Perhaps they were in denial and today my family wants no part of me.

When I see my family I sit for hours while I get a constant look of disapproval.

Why put myself through that.

Should a child be taught the evils of the world? While childhood should be sheltered and a time where innocence is given the benefit of the doubt, a child must be taught some basic rules like don't play with wall sockets or sharp objects etc.. These are not pretty subject but you teach them because you care about them gay or straight.

Well we teach children at a young age about evil bad people who want to do harm to them and the boogieman… why not teach about gay marriage, homosexuals are not evil bad people they are just different.

Our society is based upon a relatively unknown biblically fostered “freedom from the law“. This is why we don’t teach reading, writing, arithmetic and law at public schools. At least not law like before the year 1 AD.

Before the year 1 AD the law was studied and memorized by youngsters alike in big way. It still is in some countries today where we get radical extremists. The mind was thrown into a sin couscous state before it was old enough to even devise sin. Youngsters were forced to learn the law based upon the original sin which all were considered guilty of. Then the first century church revealed that it is the laws of the heart that leads by the spirit and not merely the law. This was the beginning of the progressive movement.

It was the spirit that was introduced to civilization written in the heart. For the first time in history people were guided by a spirit rather than the letter of the law. This began individualism and lifted the torturous burden of knowing every sin before it could be thought of.

Considering I knew I was gay before I was even in school shows only that sexual preference can manifest itself at a very young age. Although my homosexuality was only fantasy into my early teens I knew clearly what I had a preference for.

Perhaps my classmates would have taken a different attitude toward me had they been taught the walk of the spirit rather than the letter of the law.

I am here to say that no child should have to endure what I went through.

So if it means making them aware of alternative lifestyles at a young age SO BE IT.

It will drop the rates of homosexual teen suicides and legitimize alternative lifestyles as a possible course between two consenting adults.

The yes on 1 people are protecting the sanctity of heterosexuals procreating? How many more people do we need on this earth as it is? Conservatives have to stop thinking the earth is flat and infinite it is finite and yes, round… the world is already sucking the planet dry of oil? How much longer are heterosexuals going to destroy this earth so future generations (these kids they are making) have no place to even live…

One of the main hosts on Fox News said “to hell with the earth” the other day (something about not eating meat cause cows pollute the air). I just can’t believe how cold and callused the conservatives are to this planet. They are so far off base from the reality of things I feel there is no hope for them.

I thought conservative went along with conservation… HELL NO… it is get rich fast and “to hell with the earth” Just another reason why I have left the republican party.

I don’t think much has to be said to youngsters other than.

Some daddies are mommies and some mommies are daddies. Some children have two mommies and some children have two daddies… Why? because they love each other, and let the children figure it out the rest.

Perhaps I wouldn’t be such a prick now if I had been treated with some dignity and fairness in school.

Perhaps my classmates would not have been vicious bigots had they been taught that love is unique and diverse and good and wholesome in its diversity.

Perhaps Matthew Shepherd would be alive now. The current system does NOT work, it is broken and leaving it the way it is is not an option in my book.

I will go to my grave with a deeply rooted hatred for the way I was treated in school because a system like this was not in place and now it is affecting my adult life. When does this hatred and discrimination for me and my partner end?
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 31 Oct, 2009 06:08 am
http://bill-in-portland-maine.dailykos.com/
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