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California Voters Approve Gay-Marriage Ban

 
 
Shadow X
 
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Reply Tue 28 May, 2013 11:19 pm
@RexRed,
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_iteU6v2ERxQ/TTdEkWGXsmI/AAAAAAAAABA/__dIuBAiS8g/s1600/gay%2Btest%2B2.jpg
Shadow X
 
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Reply Tue 28 May, 2013 11:27 pm
@RexRed,
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/940852_564297853615506_1407749427_n.jpg

At least she's consistent when she calls for equality... unlike the vast majority of homosexuals... but you see where that kind of logic brings you don't you?
RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 28 May, 2013 11:38 pm
If you don't want a gay marriage don't get one...
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 28 May, 2013 11:53 pm
tell me once again how to wake up my religious friends...
Shadow X
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 09:21 am
@RexRed,
I don't think your religious friends are the ones who need to wake up... I think its you and your gay friends that need to wake up.

These were all published in the Journal of Homosexuality. It's a peer-reviewed academic journal covering research into sexual practices and gender roles in their cultural, historical, interpersonal, and modern social contexts.

Discrimination Against a Minority
The vast majority of the articles in "Male Intergenerational Intimacy" argue that pedophilia should be freed from categorization as child abuse. In the foreword, Dr. Gunter Schmidt closes by saying that "Each individual case must be looked upon on its own merits...the threat to make all pedophile acts punishable by law can barely be labeled civilized...it implies discrimination and persecution of a minority and should be abolished." (p. 4)

Another group of writers (two psychologists and a lawyer--Sandfort, Brongersma, and Naerssen) argue that "the current social climate makes it rather difficult to look at [pedophilic] relationships in an objective way." (p.5)

"Born that Way and Can't Change"
In another article, "'The Main Thing is Being Wanted': Some Case Studies on Adult Sexual Experiences with Children," the author says that one-third of the pedophiles he has studied claimed that "their sexual desire for children is a natural part of their constitution. This desire is variously described as 'inbred,' 'innate,' 'a fact of nature,' 'inherent in them,' etc. The leitmotif of their accounts is 'this is me' or 'just the way I am.'"

The author concludes that the feeling of being "born a pedophile" makes them feel they cannot change, and therefore they are convinced they have the same right as other people to pursue the "natural" expression of their sexuality. (p. 133). The same author quotes a respondent's belief that "if adult-child sex was commonplace, the majority of it would surely be good for both participants." (p. 137).

Psychology Must Remain "Unbiased"
Another article ("Boy-Lovers and their Influence on Boys," by Edward Brongersma) complains about the "bias" which labels man-boy sex as "abuse, molestation, assault, " etc. Dr. Brongersma complains that researchers are unable to remain objective about pedophilia, saying "...many people...exhibit such violently emotional hostility toward boy-lovers because they fear their own...pedophile impulses." (p. l53).

Dr. Brongersma goes on to cite cases in which social workers achieved "miracles with apparently incorrigible young delinquents--not by preaching to them but by sleeping with them." He describes how these sexual relationships "did far more good than years in reformatories." (p. l6l).

He advises that the loving pedophile can offer a "companionship, security and protection" which neither peers nor parents can provide (p. l62) and goes on to say that parents should look upon the pedophile who loves their son "not as a rival or competitor, not as a thief of their property, but as a partner in the boy's upbringing, someone to be welcomed into their home..."

Children's Rights to Autonomy
Another writer, David Thorstad, argues for "freedom of sexual expression for young people and children" (p. 255) and quotes a lesbian who talks of the "rich texture" of her experiences as a molested child.

Writer Gerald Jones says that "same-sex intergenerational intimacy may be developmentally functional" (p. 279) and says, "Some studies have found benign or even beneficial results in boys who were at the time involved with men" (p. 280). Dr. Jones speaks approvingly of recent studies which discuss pedophilia in "value-neutral terms." (p. 280)

Along the same vein, The Harvard Gay and Lesbian Review interviewed poet Allen Ginsberg, a homosexual pedophile, shortly before his recent death. In a generally flattering article, they report Ginsburg's philosophy (not mentioned by the mainstream press) about sex with children, and offer no judgmental comment about it. The article is entitled, "The Liberation is the Word" (Summer 1997)

Now why would these articles be published in the foremost homosexual "academic" journal unless these ideologies were being advocated for by the homosexual community?

Shockingly... these stories were not met with horror or abject disgust by its readers... they were met with general approval and the journal of homosexualtiy still publishes crap like this today.
RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 12:08 pm
@Shadow X,
You could have stopped after the first three words in your post... I DON'T THINK...
neologist
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 12:17 pm
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:
tell me once again how to wake up my religious friends...
Are you referring to those preachers who water down God's word in order to suck up to special interest groups.? The preachers should fear the moment when the sheep finally do wake up.
RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 12:21 pm
@neologist,
No I mean the people who get so brainwashed by the Bible that they change over time from nice people into jerks Neo...
Shadow X
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 12:21 pm
@RexRed,
Yeah we wouldn't want you to have to face reality would we?
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RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 12:22 pm
@Shadow X,
Leave it to a Christian to reduce a woman to a piece of ass.
neologist
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 12:43 pm
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:
No I mean the people who get so brainwashed by the Bible that they change over time from nice people into jerks Neo...
You really hate the fact that the Bible you would like to embrace contains words that condemn your lifestyle. Am I right? What if I told you that the Bible also contains words to heal your troubled psyche? You are not alone. And, I'm not talking about the spurious claims that you can change your orientation through prayer. You are not alone.
Shadow X
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 12:51 pm
@RexRed,
Well it is better than the homosexuals reducing a child to a piece of ass.
RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 01:05 pm
@Shadow X,
Both are evil and so are you for thinking that in any was is acceptable. I am a homosexual and do not condone child sexual abuse. I would have words with any person gay or straight who thinks such behavior would ever be permissible. So that makes me better than you because I also respect women. I could see the impropriety in that picture but you couldn't. So whose the sinner here? Would Jesus have been staring at her ass? Is this what he died for, a piece of ass? You have reduced yourself to nothing more than a homophobe and a sexist.

Perhaps the guy who did not stare at her was the only gentleman in the bunch. You can tell a lot about a person by what they think is a joke.

And what does the Bible say about lust? You are a hypocrite of the very worst kind. Married gays have sworn off the lust and instead opted for a loving relationship of respect and consideration. You on the other hand are nothing more than a pervert. You are no better than the sexist book that you use to justify your hate.
RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 01:15 pm
@neologist,
The Bible also has words that condemn women but I guess you don't mind those parts...
Shadow X
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 01:22 pm
@RexRed,
If I wanted I could easily find 1000's of pictures of women objectifying men. It's the internet. Not to mention you find it abhorrent that women are objectified by men but you have said NOTHING about homosexual men objectifying other men or lesbian women objectifying women.

When was the last time you saw a heterosexual bathhouse where men and women walked around half naked and there for the express purpose of finding a stranger to have sex with in the "spa"?

And I find it absolutely hilarious that you attempt to compare the monogamy of homosexuals to that of heterosexuals. The rate of promiscuity among the homosexual community absolutely dwarfs that in the heterosexual community.

A.28% of homosexual men had more than 1000 partners: "Bell and Weinberg reported evidence of widespread sexual compulsion among homosexual men. 83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners. Bell and Weinberg p 308." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)

B.79% of homosexual men say over half of sex partners are strangers: "The survey showed 79% of the respondents saying that over half of their sexual partners were strangers. Seventy percent said that over half of their sexual partners were people with whom they had sex only once. Bell and Weinberg pp.308-309." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)

C.Modal range for homosexual sex partners 101-500: "In their study of the sexual profiles of 2,583 older homosexuals published in Journal of Sex Research, Paul Van de Ven et al. found that "the modal range for number of sexual partners ever [of homosexuals] was 101–500." In addition, 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent had between 501 and 1000 partners. A further 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent reported having had more than 1000 lifetime sexual partners. Paul Van de Ven et al., "A Comparative Demographic and Sexual Profile of Older Homosexually Active Men," Journal of Sex Research 34 (1997): 354." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)

D.1978 study, 78% of gay men ad more than 100 partners, 28% more than 1000: "A far-ranging study of homosexual men published in 1978 revealed that 75 percent of self-identified, white, gay men admitted to having sex with more than 100 different males in their lifetime: 15 percent claimed 100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed 250- 499; 15 percent claimed 500-999; and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex partners. By 1984, after the AIDS epidemic had taken hold, homosexual men were reportedly curtailing promiscuity, but not by much. Instead of more than 6 partners per month in 1982, the average non-monogamous respondent in San Francisco reported having about 4 partners per month in 1984." (catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html)

E.There is an extremely low rate of sexual fidelity among homosexual men as compared to married heterosexuals. Among married females 85% reported sexual fidelity. Among married men, 75.5% reported sexual fidelity. Among homosexual males in their current relationship, 4.5% reported sexual fidelity. (Sources:Laumann, The Social Organization of Sexuality, 216; McWhirter and Mattison, The Male Couple: How Relationships Develop (1984): 252-253; Wiederman, "Extramarital Sex," 170.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 01:22 pm
@Shadow X,
This is nothing more than a lie created by deceitful men who claim to love God...
Then it is further promulgated by sexists and homophobes of the same ilk. Namely, you... If it were true it would be all over the internet. Not a single news story on this on the net other than your hateful slander. I don't have to resort to lies to make my point. I don't have to claim my opinions are written by a God to be truthful.
Shadow X
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 01:27 pm
@RexRed,
BTW Red... I haven't seen you cry and kick your feet ONE SINGLE TIME over the multitudes of pedophiles in the homosexual community. You haven't called for the ostracizing of one single homosexual leader that has advocated for pedophilia.

So excuse me if I don't believe you when you say that "you'd have words with any person gay or straight who thinks that such behavior would ever be permissible."

Not only have you not spoken out about the pedophilia advocated for by the homosexual community but you've defended the homosexual community by ignoring that it occurs at all.

You're simply a liar and a hypocrite of the worst kind.
RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 01:38 pm
In America today the main constituents for polygamous marriage are Mormons and, as Newsweek reports, "a growing number of evangelical Christian and Muslim polygamists."(based upon sexist scriptures not ethics)

Somehow gays who want to marry are polygamists?
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Shadow X
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 01:40 pm
@RexRed,
That's actually exactly what you're doing... you're lying through your teeth... or else you're willfully ignorant of the facts.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-murder-and-the-meaning-life/201006/homosexuality-queer-problem

http://www.wpaag.org/Homosexuals%20and%20Same%20Sex%20Marriage.htm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/04/ten-most-promiscuous-gay-city-america_n_2238022.html

http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=68309%20%20

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/29/us/29sfmetro.html

http://cregs.sfsu.edu/our-projects/research-studies/the-gay-couples-study/

Stop lying... or educate yourself
RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 29 May, 2013 01:57 pm
@Shadow X,
Well apparently you have not read my posts here. Were I to find a person in public office who actually endorses pedophilia I would most certainly call for their immediate dismissal. But why call for the dismissal of a person when the claim is a lie?

Senator Catherine Cool Rumsey is attacked because she is a democrat not because she ever endorsed or would endorse the things that have been claimed.

Rhode Island GOP Senators Unanimously Back Gay Marriage
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/23/rhode-island-gop-gay-marriage_n_3139633.html

I don't care what you think of me you are worthy of ridicule for your stupid religion.

It seems quite likely you do endorse polygamy. I stand against you and your sexist Bible.

Excerpt from an internet article
The word POLYGAMY is not in the Bible, but there are about 30 polygamists in the Bible. Lamech was the first Polygamist in the Bible,Genesis 4:19" And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah" followed by Terah,Pharaoh, King Abimelech,Nahor,Abraham,Esau,Jacob,Eliphaz,Moses,Gideon,Issachar,Elkanar,Saul.
David was a husband of several wives, 1 chronicle 14:3" And David took more wives at Jerusalem: and David begat more sons and daughters"
Then Solomon, the most popular and celebrated, and also the greatest polygamist had 700 wives and 300 concubines. 1 King 11:3" And he had seven hundred wives, princess, and three hundred concubines: and his wives turned away his heart". Abraham,David and Solomon were favourites of God, so it easy to conclude that there is nothing wrong with polygamy, in fact, modern day ministers see nothing wrong with polygamy.
 

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